Might be Ackley, but I've never seen a picture of Ackley without his glasses on, or a picture when he was a younger man. Makes sense that Ackley might pose with the group, but I'm just not sure it's him or not.

CMM, 

   Thanks for the information. Dating that car does help me with the investigation that I have taken on with a batch of old photos from William Crowther's album.

                               thank you, Sendaro

Shovel80, 

No he was for real! Check out the J M Pyne stories that he wrote. You are going to find them very interesting.

                        Sendaro

It seems there are few pictures of Parker O. Ackley around some may be seen here :-
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Unfortunately there are some of Fred Huntingdon and Harry Pope and possibly others mixed in with them. 
Harry

AMEN,  good enough I posted it on the FB page for my (mostly) non-shooting friends to see.   

  the little gallery of associated photos was interesting.    Many were probably NMLRA shots but the last one looks like Pope and someone else to me, and I'd like to know who guy is in the first one is.  Looks like he is shooting indoors (or posing) with a ballard, but the trigger guard looks different to me.  It almost looks to me like has has 2 fingers in the front loop

just WAGging;  but #4 looks like an established someone with a VERY large collection of Ky/Penn rifles and a younger--perhaps a craftsman---with enough status to be handling one of them.  Somebody like G. Shumway and a Wallace Gussler type.  their clothing looks to be of the right era for that.
The guys over on the American Long rifle site could ID them at the drop of a hat I'll bet as might some of the older NMLRA guys

PO wasn't noted for anything single shot, muzzle loader or jacketed benchrest that I have come accross over the years. It was his high intensity cartridge designs that held him in high regard with the Hunting crowd and his years of teaching Gunsmithing at Trinidad by his students.

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A " supposition " is  a hypothesis of logic which is based on a set of certain facts which are established and are known.  The photograph in question, and presented here, is a reliable document evidencing a factual portrayal of what, where and how took place at that given moment in time and space.  The document (photo) speaks for itself and the facts are there for everyone to see.

This is not a truck stop on Route 66 with a bunch of truck drivers stopped for coffee shooting the breeze !  If someone wants to view this particular image and believe it to be a truck stop on Rout 66 with a bunch of truck drivers standing outside, that is the viewer's privilege to do so, but he or she would be wrong in that instance.   

It is human nature to deny what you don't understand, but it is human ignorance to say that the cat is white, when in fact, the cat is actually black.

Lack of knowledge, which is the definition of ignorance, leads to endlessness, whereas, in the current examination of the presented photograph there exists more than an adequate amount of knowledge to foreclose what one has thought to be an endless and open ended explanation for that day's events.

I suppose if one were to totally ignore entirely what has already been said, one could arbitrarily conclude that the tall individual is a represented of the British Sweepstakes who has traveled to Mr. Ackley's business address in order to deliver to Ackley a government cheque drawn on the national treasury in the sum of two million pounds sterling for the winning ticket in the British National lottery.  Now that is endless,.  .  .  ., but does anyone really want to go there?   

I should think not, we're all adults, I suppose.   

C.M.M.





 

JLouis wrote on Sep 21^st, 2014 at 7:41pm:


Ackley worked with the Sharps Arms Company of Salt Lake City, Utah in the late 1960's when the company was trying to produce a modern version of the Sharps Borchardt single shot. They produced 12 prototypes and then sold out to Colt.

In the back of my mind I think I remember reading that Lucian Cary died a Pauper.
Just had a quick look for one of his thin paper back books he wrote on the old gun slingers of the West but can't find it.
Very interesting reading if what he wrote was true.

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You say that your rifle is quote: "strange looking".   I have to wonder just how strange looking it might be?  Is it really strange or just slightly on the odd side ?  If you would accommodate this question by posting a photo, or perhaps two, of the rifle that would most helpful.  Strangeness is not always a defect, just different.  Will you do it?
Dr.Maynard

I think if you look at this post you will see one of the other gentlemen in the photo


Who's holding the Maynard?

6mmintl wrote on May 12^th, 2015 at 4:09pm:


I don't even see any gun?

This is a photo of P.O. Ackley of Trinidad, Colorado;

This is another of Lucian Cary;

Yet another picture of Lucian Cary and friends, this one is from the ASSRA archive;