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Aug 6th, 2014 at 9:56am
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I am considering on a new single shot rifle and would like to have it in 25 cal.  I have been searching for brass and it seems hard to come by.  I would really like it to be in 25 20 WCF.  What suggestions do you have for me?
  
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Reply #1 - Aug 6th, 2014 at 10:34am
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Many are using a hornet case for their 25 caliber.

I use the 357 Maximum case to make the breech seated 25 RKS (trimmed to 1.470" and tapered with .223 die).

Depends if you need a traditional case or a wildcat case for the competitions you wish to shoot in.
  
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Reply #2 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 8:50am
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Think your 25-20WCF is an excellent choice. The most recent (that I'm aware of) 250s shot with a 25cal are with the 25-20WCF. Win & Rem both make the brass, but is a 'seasonal' run. You can always purchase the factory 25-20WCF ammo and shoot it and then have the brass. Also, you can purchase 32-20WCF brass and size it down to 25-25WCF. I've had good luck finding brass on Gunbroker. Not always at the price you would like, but almost always someone has it listed. Good luck with your choice. A great little cartridge.
  

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Reply #3 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 12:37pm
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Ken,
Was your 32/20 the CPA version?
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Reply #4 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 9:39pm
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Meanwhile, back to the original question.

tdelewis,

I would strongly suggest that you hold out for Remington brass for your 25-20WCF project. A couple of shooters out here where I shoot tried Winchester brass with less than satisfactory results.

This is not a slam on Winchester brass. It's great brass and I use it as a first choice in some of my rifles. It just didn't work out in my (and others) 25-20WCF.

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Reply #5 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 9:50pm
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Hi Jerry:
Thanks for info on Rem vs Win brass. Any thoughts on why the Win brass does not work as well as the Rem brass?
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Reply #6 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 9:59pm
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Glenn,

Really can't say why the Winchester doesn't hold up as well, just know the Remington is the way to go from my experience and what I've seen on the line during practice and matches. 

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Reply #7 - Aug 7th, 2014 at 10:36pm
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In my wife's 32/20, Win Brass is only good for a few shots (approx 12 - 14) and I can get ~50 shots out of the Rem's.

The brass seperates at both the case head and the shoulder. The basic problem with this brass is that it's to thin for the higher pressures that we run with heavier bullets and I believe the Win is thinner than the Rem. She's using 180 - 190 gr bullets in a 308 barrel.

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Reply #8 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 7:07am
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Jerry & Frank - thanks. 
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Reply #9 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 7:32am
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Any comments re. Starline .32-20, necked down to .25 ?
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 9:43am
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[quote author=22362A2F212B3621440 link=1407333360/9#9 date=1407465418]In my wife's 32/20, Win Brass is only good for a few shots (approx 12 - 14) and I can get ~50 shots out of the Rem's.


That really suprizes me!  I have been shooting a couple of 32-20's for over 30 years.  One is a sleeved #2 Remington rolling block, the other a Winchester Model 1892.  I have mostly Winchester cases, but some Remington.  I don't see any difference in the longivity between them.  I have reloaded them many, many times.   I am using standard 32-20 bullet weight of 115 grains and 11 grains of 4227.  Same load works great in both rifles, my daughters '92, and another '92 SRC I just acquired.  Out of many 1000's of rounds I doubt I have had a half dozen cases go bad (head separations), and that was some old brass someone gave me.

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Reply #11 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 10:27am
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George:

It appears you are not shooting as heavy a bullet or as heavy a powder load so you may not be putting as much stress on your cases. 

Also someone with a tighter chamber will not stretch and have as much problems of seperation of specific brass in their rifles.

I traditionally prefer the Remington brass which is heavier and handles stress a bit better.
However for forming Wildcat cases I prefer the Winchester because it forms easier being thinner; plus it is ussualy annealed to be a bit softer.

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Reply #12 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 2:30pm
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Well, I'm shooting it as a 32-20 was originally intended to be shot;  with bullets 85 to 115 grains as per the Winchester loadings.  I would guess that using those real heavy bullets is pushing the limits of the case.  When I want a heavier bullet, I jump up to the 30-40 Krag case with a 190 grain bullet.  I don't use either cartridge for serious target shooting, though can do pretty well with the 30-40 Shiloh I got almost 30 years ago.  I had Dick Hoch make me a 235 grain (I think) mould to use in the 30-40 Shiloh but I haven't used it much. 

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Reply #13 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 8:34pm
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When someone speaks in regards to the 32-20 it would be nice if the included if they are using the original or the CPA, two different bullet sizes .312 versus .321 and twist rates. It would help to cut down on some of the confusion.

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Reply #14 - Aug 8th, 2014 at 8:52pm
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John,
There are actually three 32/20's. .308, .312 & .321. The .308 is fairly common today. 

I identified mine as a 308 using 180/190 gr bullets.

The only ones that give trouble are the ones that shoot heavy bullets.

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