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Re: Lo Wall in 25-20 WCF
Reply #15 - Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:24am
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George,

A few years ago I bought a low wall, 1900 vintage with a set back 23 and 1/8th inch octagon barrel in 25 WCF marked with a 1 on the barrel bottom flat now under the forestock .  Has scope blocks and the seller threw in a Lyman polaroid tube sight without the front Lyman #77 front sight.  It is stamped A. O. NIEDER  DOWAGIAC,MICH. on the top barrel flat between the rear sight and the Winchester markings.  The seller was glad to get rid of it, not nearly as glad as I was to get it.  Anybody need a Lyman tube sight?  Death to jack rabbits!

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Re: Lo Wall in 25-20 WCF
Reply #16 - Aug 12th, 2014 at 11:43am
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Jim Hays,

I have never seen a Lyman sight like you describe.  Would you please show a picture of it?
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 12th, 2014 at 1:14pm
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Jim,

That sounds like an interesting sight.  How about posting a picture.  Not sure if the Lyman 77 front sight (17?) was a typo or?  The "Old Gunsights book doesn't show a Lyman tube sight or a 77 front sight.

My LoWall is missing the front sight, or part of it.  There is a copper block set into the front dovetail.  The copper block has a second dovetail in it that is parallel to the barrel.  Not at all sure if this is homemade or part of something else.

I have the dies and shell holder, just waiting for the brass and bullets which are on their way.  I have an extra Lyman #2 (new junk) which will help me see how it shoots.  The tang screw for a Model 92 or 94 is just enough longer than the LoWall screw to work with the Lyman tang sight.  Just looking though, using the tang sight is going to require a pretty tall front sight, so I may just make something up for testing.  If it shoots I'll probably get a set of MVA sights.

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Re: Lo Wall in 25-20 WCF
Reply #18 - Aug 13th, 2014 at 12:26pm
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Sorry, I am ignorant of how to post pictures and lots of other computer stuff.  The Lyman polaroid tube sight is a 1" tube with no lense but a polaroid membrane, for want of a better word, with a small knob to turn it 90 degrees in conjunction with a fixed polaroid in the front sight to regulate light in the mechanism, a dubious advantage, but legal at the time for classification as not a glass scope but iron sight.  The Lyman 77 hood is almost as rare as it took me several years as a gun show junkie to find one.  See Nick Strobel's OLD GUNSIGHTS p.59 for the 77.  The rear sight from 10 feet away looks like a scope with all of the guts knocked out.  Took me a while to figure it out.

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Re: Lo Wall in 25-20 WCF
Reply #19 - Aug 13th, 2014 at 3:22pm
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I went back to the Stroebel book and found the 77 front sight right where you said it was.  Missed that the first time through.  Wish I could see what the rear sight is like.  But withoug the matching front sight it would probably be useless.  Tube sights are a bit intriging.  They have been around a long, long time.  I think the first ones I saw were in the Reich Museum in Amsterdam.  They were on wheellocks as I recall.  I even have a book in Dutch which shows a matchlock having what looks like a tube sight on it.  Really hard to tell though.

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Re: Lo Wall in 25-20 WCF
Reply #20 - Aug 20th, 2014 at 9:52am
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Here is a picture of the Lyman #77. Use one on the front of my .22LR Low Wall and think it not only suits the rifle (27" full-octagon Win #2 profile) but the inserts are the readily available Lyman #17.
  

Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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