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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Pope De-Re Capper Jul 24^th, 2014 at 5:55pm	Print Post
	I have what i believe is an original one on the way(unk caliber).The bottom of the handes are not seen but they are not like a Pool or Meecham with scrapers,they are just rounded. I don’t intend to keep it as I have no Pope rifles and the Meacham’s I have work for me. A friend has shown some interest. Here is the grainy picture of it.I will post a better picture when it arrives. Rough value? I will offer it up here should my buddy decide he doesn’t want it.
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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #1 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 5:57pm	Print Post
	Picture did not make it. Can you post it again?


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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #2 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 6:07pm	Print Post
	try this(see above)

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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #3 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:22pm	Print Post
	Pope or Stevens Pope In the Day auction two went in the 250-300 range which I thought a bit cheap. The plating on yours is worse than those were.


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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #4 - Jul 24^th, 2014 at 11:10pm	Print Post
	Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2014 at 10:22pm: Pope or Stevens Pope In the Day auction two went in the 250-300 range which I thought a bit cheap. The plating on yours is worse than those were. Not far off the value I thought.when it arrives I will post good pictures.

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harry_eales Ex Member	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #5 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 8:41am	Print Post
	Over the years there have been a good many copies of Harry Pope's De-Re Capper made by various gunsmiths and tool makers, are you certain that it is a genuine Pope made item? Just asking as it would make a deal of difference in the price. Harry


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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #6 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 12:17pm	Print Post
	I am damn sure old man would you like me to post a few pictures of mine for you?? Then take a look in the section on tools in the new Pope books that have just come out. You have them dont you?


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harry_eales Ex Member	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #7 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 2:16pm	Print Post
	Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 wrote on Jul 25^th, 2014 at 12:17pm: I am damn sure old man would you like me to post a few pictures of mine for you?? Then take a look in the section on tools in the new Pope books that have just come out. You have them dont you? I'm not certain as to whom you are referring Tom_Trevor, but if it is me, then yes I am an old man at 71years of age. I don't have either books on Pope as over here in the UK they cost 50% more than they do in the USA. A pension here doesn't permit the purchase of such items without several months of saving and I currently have other financial priorities. My question as to the origin of the item pictured was directed at LINOWW. Harry


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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #8 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 4:56pm	Print Post
	Quote: Over the years there have been a good many copies of Harry Pope's De-Re Capper made by various gunsmiths and tool makers, are you certain that it is a genuine Pope made item? Just asking as it would make a deal of difference in the price. Harry like I said not sure. The picture is just the one I had in the group of items I bought. It was not clean to Be a pope but then again the majority of the stuff had no description. I should have it in my hands Monday at that time I'll take some better pictures maybe you guys can help me out.

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John Boy Ex Member	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #9 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:06pm	Print Post
	Quote: I have what i believe is an original one on the way(unk caliber). When you receive it - measure the ID of the rim ... then you'll know the caliber


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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #10 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	If its a Pope I believe the caliber should be marked on the decapping rod.if it's not would that make it not original though? it wil all be clear monday i hope when it arrives.
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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #11 - Jul 25^th, 2014 at 9:49pm	Print Post
	Linoww, If it looks like one of these you are good to go. I have seen some with no calibre marking. Post a picture when it gets here.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16289 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #12 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 9:14am	Print Post
	I have one that's a very decent copy, and the seller was up front about it being a copy. Whoever built it did a nice job, just too new looking to have the old patina of a real Pope. It also has an updated decapper from the Pope design. I gave a whopping $20 for it, and use it often.
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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #13 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 1:13pm	Print Post
	Marlinguy, Please add a picture of your re-de capper for us.


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LONG RANGE Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 414 Location: CHERRY VALLEY, CA Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2013	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #14 - Jul 26^th, 2014 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	After much begging and pleading I talked a coworker into selling me his Pool capper-decapper. It cost me $100 and two antique telephones. About two weeks later I was walking through the big Pomona gun show when I saw one on a table. I asked the man, how much and he said, it's not mine but I think he wants $15 for it. Of course I threw my elbow out of joint in a speedy effort to get my wallet out. Charles Pool's nephew was kind enough to make me some extra shell holders.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16289 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #15 - Jul 27^th, 2014 at 10:26am	Print Post
	Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 wrote on Jul 26^th, 2014 at 1:13pm: Marlinguy, Please add a picture of your re-de capper for us. Just had it out for my OAC meeting schuetzen display this month, so I'll grab it and take a picture.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16289 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #16 - Jul 27^th, 2014 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	Here's mine. I can feel the shape of the handles under the rubber covers, and contemplated removing them to give it a older period look. But they are comfortable, so not sure I'll remove them. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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John in PA Oldtimer Offline Posts: 580 Location: Hollidaysburg, PA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #17 - Jul 27^th, 2014 at 8:18pm	Print Post
	marlinguy, yours looks like the Jerry Simmons tools that I have.

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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #18 - Jul 27^th, 2014 at 8:20pm	Print Post
	I like the handle covers.the Meacham with the flashhole scraper at the end really tears my hand up.I taped them up but it looks silly.

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #19 - Jul 27^th, 2014 at 10:40pm	Print Post
	lots of makers basically copied the one Pope made with minor variations. Including Jerry's. Not that many new De-Re designs out there. after all there is not a huge market and the old designs worked fine

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16289 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #20 - Jul 27^th, 2014 at 11:08pm	Print Post
	John in PA wrote on Jul 27^th, 2014 at 8:18pm: marlinguy, yours looks like the Jerry Simmons tools that I have. Thanks! Had no idea who made it, but I like the way it works.

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Mike65 Full Member Offline Posts: 198 Joined: May 4^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #21 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 8:59am	Print Post
	LINOWW, Instead of tape to cover the scraper(s) go to the hardware store and get some bolt thread protectors. They come in many diameters, are about 1/2" to 3/4" long and just slip on. The yellow ones worked for my .32 and the green for the .25. I don't know if the colors are industry standards or not but they seem to be the same at the different big box stores around here. If you need to use the pocket scraper just slip a cover off and then right back on when you're done. They work great on my Simmons(s). Mike

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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #22 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	Marliguy, Look on the front of the ears that the arm pivot screws are in and you will find in tiny letters a serial mumber. My first one in 1965 was 81 in the 90s I bought 1366. Let us know.


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John in PA Oldtimer Offline Posts: 580 Location: Hollidaysburg, PA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #23 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 6:01pm	Print Post
	A short piece of fuel line the correct size for a slip fit would work well as a handle cushion also, and could be slipped off(or up) if primer pocket cleaner is needed.

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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #24 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 8:02pm	Print Post
	The real deal???? (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #25 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 8:25pm	Print Post
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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #26 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 9:06pm	Print Post
	Yes, it is real.


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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #27 - Jul 28^th, 2014 at 9:52pm	Print Post
	Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2014 at 9:06pm: Yes, it is real. Thanks, I figured it was but hadn't handled one in 20 years. G-

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16289 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #28 - Jul 29^th, 2014 at 1:41pm	Print Post
	Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 wrote on Jul 28^th, 2014 at 12:54pm: Marliguy, Look on the front of the ears that the arm pivot screws are in and you will find in tiny letters a serial mumber. My first one in 1965 was 81 in the 90s I bought 1366. Let us know. Never noticed the serial number before! Mine is actually on the top left side of the rear ear. It's #301 in .32-40 caliber.

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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 695 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: Pope De-Re Capper Reply #29 - Jul 29^th, 2014 at 5:49pm	Print Post
	Late 1960s or early 1970s. At one time we figured he made about 1400 of them.


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