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Humidity and reloading black powder
Jul 20th, 2014 at 2:41pm
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Hey everyone,

I've heard anecdotes about people avoiding reloading when the humidity is over a certain level, but haven't seen any hard data. Has anyone here found the humidity levels during reloading change how their loads shoot?  It's a great day to reload, but it's really foggy and humid where I live at the moment. 

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Re: Humidity and reloading black powder
Reply #1 - Jul 20th, 2014 at 6:54pm
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Not sure where others load, but my loading bench is in my basement, which is air-conditioned like the rest of the house. Am guessing the rh is somewhere between 40 & 50. Have not noticed any differences based on rh in my shooting (do notice the difference between a good hold and a bad one, unfortunately for me Wink). Also, do empty the B&M hopper and keep the powder cans (bottles?) capped when not in use. 

Wonder if rh has more impact in the high desert of the west where it is generally very low (10?), excepting the odd day when it can be several times as high.
  

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Reply #2 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 6:46am
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The only time I have seen humidity affect black powder is when shooting muzzle loaders. Especially flintlocks. The more humid it is, I use a courser powder for priming the pan. Even 2f has worked fine for priming. 4f sometimes seems to draw moisture too quickly. I know this doesn't apply to cartridges, that's all the BP/humidity experience I have.

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Re: Humidity and reloading black powder
Reply #3 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 9:02am
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You can feel the effects of humidity in your ramrod with a muzzle loader. Dry day they fowl faster. Hot humid summer day you can shoot long strings without wiping.

I guess it stands to reason some difference in a cartridge but never saw any measurable effect

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Re: Humidity and reloading black powder
Reply #4 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 9:24am
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There's a difference in shooting cartridge blackpowder rifles when it's humid, the fouling in the barrel is very hydroscopic and absorbs moisture out of the air.  Rifles don't foul nearly as badly when the humidity is high as they do when it's hot and dry.  They even foul worse in the winter when it's cold and the relative humidity is very low.

However, in loading the amount of moisture the powder can absorb is negligible.   

I think it was Brent Danielson that did an experiment a few years ago, he spread powder out thin and weighed it before and after being exposed to different levels of humidity.  What he found is that the amount of moisture it absorbed was nearly negligible, even when he left it for a day or more.  It was immeasurable in the short time exposure that you would normally encounter while loading.  His conclusion is that it makes essentially no difference what conditions you load under.

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Reply #5 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 9:33am
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The reason my spotter and I wipe today is that we shot a match several years ago that had an unusually low rh for PA (in the single digits) and blow tubing simply would not keep the fouling down. We both struggled loading cartridges during the match, as did most all the blow-tubers. Wet patches always work regardless of the rh, so have stayed with them.
  

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Reply #6 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 11:01am
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I've heard anecdotes about people avoiding reloading when the humidity is over a certain level, but haven't seen any hard data. Has anyone here found the humidity levels during reloading change how their loads shoot?

Nick:Sporting black powder at the plant is dried until the moisture content of the powder falls to about 0.5%. until the moisture content of the powder falls to about 0.5%.
Following drying, the powder is ready to be packaged.  

Reloading centerfire cartridges Does Not change how the loads shoot - it is impossible.  Think about it: drop powder from a charger into a primed case - compress - seat wad - seat bullet lightly crimp - put round in case.  How long does this take?  In order for increased moisture in the powder during reloading - one would have to be reloading in the rain with the charger cap not on the tube!
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Re: Humidity and reloading black powder
Reply #7 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 4:12pm
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So, what is the feeling of wet patches over "Texas Bore Pigs (hogs?)? Other than price?
  
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Re: Humidity and reloading black powder
Reply #8 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 5:37pm
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Never tried a 'pig'. The Arsenal patches work fine for me with a 6 to 7-1 mix of Moose Milk (water soluble oil) and water. Some folks prefer cloth patches and wash them for reuse. Not worth the effort for me, but YMMV. 

I use my patches quite wet. Enough that they would drip a bit if wrung out. Leaves a wet chamber. I've read where some folks think the wet chamber results in stretched brass and separated cases. I've been shooting the same 350-odd cases for 5+ years. Load them ~10 times each season and have had no separated cases.
  

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