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MAD MIKE Oldtimer Offline Posts: 655 Location: So Cal Joined: Oct 31^st, 2006	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #15 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:35pm	Print Post
	I don't believe the 44 1/2 were ever acid etch engraved & I've never seen an engraved 44, if my memory serves. Also, has anyone noticed how the barrel doesn't index properly? ...MIKE...


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2327 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #16 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:12pm	Print Post
	MAD MIKE wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:35pm: I don't believe the 44 1/2 were ever acid etch engraved & I've never seen an engraved 44, if my memory serves. Also, has anyone noticed how the barrel doesn't index properly? ...MIKE... I think that's just the perspective of the picture. If you are seeing what I'm seeing... Chris.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16269 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #17 - Jul 14^th, 2014 at 8:41pm	Print Post
	MAD MIKE wrote on Jul 14^th, 2014 at 7:35pm: I don't believe the 44 1/2 were ever acid etch engraved & I've never seen an engraved 44, if my memory serves. Also, has anyone noticed how the barrel doesn't index properly? ...MIKE... I have two presently Mike, and have had one other that I sold. An engraved 44 is not as common as a 44 1/2, but still around. Engraved Stevens are usually pretty easy to spot if etched or hand cut. It sure looks acid etched to me! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Now you've seen an engraved 44. Sorry for the crappy pictures on the #49. If you look at the OP's 2nd picture that's looking down the side of the receiver at an angle, you'll notice there's no depth to the surface. The engraving (if hand cut) would have some 3 dimensional depth to it, but it's pretty much smooth. That tells me it's the etched engraving that Stevens offered. The blackened areas are also typical of etched, and Stevens attempt to give it the look of having depth. Not sure if the 44 1/2 were ever acid etched, but the OP's gun is a 44 anyway.
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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #18 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:00pm	Print Post
	Chris I've had that rifle paid off for a few months now. Sure hope the folks I bought it from in Canada aren't trying to sell it again. I'll be a bit upset. It's 290x I'm guessing around 1896 but no way to prove that I'm aware
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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2327 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #19 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:31pm	Print Post
	Are you saying that you bought that rifle from them already? That is pretty strange. They are a very reputable dealer. I've bought a few rifles from them in the past. If it's your rifle I can only imagine that they've forgotten to take it out of their computer's inventory. How do you like the rifle? Chris.


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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #20 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 8:57pm	Print Post
	I can assure u its bought and paid for, but I'm in the us and the gun is at epps. I'm waiting to find a good importer. I took advantage of there layaway policy and that might be the reason its taking them time to pull the listing. I had spoke to them about a few others they had but most of the others remaining were considerably more expensive including a nice stevens 52 .3240 that came with an extra 22 barrel that obviously from another rifle. The gun was nice its not worth the 10k! It was explained to me that the Guns were part of an estate and the negotiations on prices was nearly impossible. Importing fees are more than what most people pay for two cheap hunting rifles!


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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #21 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	In addition to the wrist issues, i believe the barrel has possibly been cut based upon the distance from the front sight to the end of the barrel. .. But I am excited about the remington front sight.


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2327 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #22 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 9:56pm	Print Post
	Is it that expensive bringing a rifle south then? I pay $250 CDN plus shipping and insurance for importing from the U.S. to Canada. The one suggestion I'd give you is to ensure they pack it well. I was not pleased to see the way my Zischang highwall was sent. They'd put the moulds into the same case as the rifle with not so much as a piece of newspaper around them to protect the rifle from being scratched. No harm was done though. Otherwise I've been happy dealing with them. That 10k Stevens does seem way overpriced, but sometimes people up here think their stuff is priceless. I saw a Borchardt up here that was priced at $4000 and it literally looked like I was buried at sea for a few decades. Chris.


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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #23 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 10:14pm	Print Post
	As i understand it u can basically just ship an antique across the border without an ATF 6 form and all the fees (700-1000+ depending on who u talk to) for the costs u described with cbp approval. Ive read in publications where stevens changed from 107-110 in 1896. So I believe the gun is an antique. However this isnt a situation like a serial no. And record letter You can verify thru winchester or marlin. So I need to have some conversations with the canadian border patrol and determine exactly what constitutes proof .
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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #24 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 10:37pm	Print Post
	Stevens catalogs will confirm that the 107-110 was replaced with the Model 44 designation in the 1896. Same year that Page took over the company. Some years ago I bought a barrel and frame for a Forehand & Wadsworth rifle from a Canadian eBay seller. If I recall aright, they mailed it, with nary a qualm.

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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #25 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 10:41pm	Print Post
	Good to know unfortunately I don't possess early catalogs. I just don't want an expensive mistake. I know of some discussion in flaydermans books
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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #26 - Aug 3^rd, 2014 at 11:01pm	Print Post
	Abby at Cornell Publications in Brighton, Michigan has reprints. Excellent quality and rarely more than $20 apiece.

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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #27 - Aug 4^th, 2014 at 1:30am	Print Post
	Thank u sir greatly appreciated


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gunlaker Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2327 Location: lower mainland, B.C. Joined: Dec 13^th, 2010	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #28 - Aug 4^th, 2014 at 10:19am	Print Post
	It definitely qualifies up here as an antique: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Chris.


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oodmoff Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 276 Location: colorado springs Joined: Jan 12^th, 2009	Re: Steven's 44 with #5 barrel? Reply #29 - Aug 4^th, 2014 at 11:01am	Print Post
	Thanks chris. I hoping that Wes will agree. He was the person who set up my layaway and is charge of handling the import/export process. He seems to be absent often. Worse case my brother in laws father lives in bc. Hopefully I can ship it west should I run into problems with epps.


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