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Reply #165 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 5:12am
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At the range on the weekend a fellow club member had a 44 in 38/55, octagonal barrel, lugged hammer. Unfortunately the pic I took of the serial number is unreadable but will follow up and get it as soon as I can. May be several months before he brings it to the range again.

The calibre marking is fairly faint but can be seen on the flat under the address.
  
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Reply #166 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 1:36pm
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That 38-55 appears to have a really heavy weight barrel, is the rifle a plain Jane model 44 or a higher grade one?
  
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Reply #167 - Apr 20th, 2021 at 1:54pm
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Agree it's got a barrel heavier than a #2.

He'll have to collar the owner next time and talk him into taking the forearm off.

  

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Reply #168 - Jun 26th, 2021 at 5:28pm
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Just posted the rear sight in its own thread. 

7 o'clock extractor 25 rimfire serial number 5052.

  
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Reply #169 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 11:10am
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I have a 44 serial # 136xx in 25-20 wcf. Could this be a factory original caliber?
  
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Reply #170 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 12:48pm
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There's another member here who says he has one that came from the factory.  I'd like to see the barrel marking.   

During the time when .25-20 WCF ammo was available, but .25-20 Stevens was rare, some 44s were rechambered to .25-20 WCF.   Careful measurement of barrel length will help reveal this, since the barrel had to be set back about 1/4" to accomplish this.  (OTOH some bunkhouse gunsmiths didn't, so it's not a perfect "tell".)  

The practice was never a good idea, since a lot of WCF factory loads using jacketed bullets were (and are) much too energetic for the old 44 action.  Which makes me doubt that Stevens ever did it.

A .25-20 caliber 44 should be loaded mildly, to keep it from shooting loose.  I recently bought a 44 that was relined and chambered for the WCF, and I intend to keep it to about 1400 fps with the plain base 86 grain bullet, or 1650 fps with a gas checked 74 grain bullet.   Using magnum pistol powders like 4227, AA#9, Blue Dot, or 2400.  NOT fast powders like Unique, Bullseye, or Red Dot, except for subsonic "cat-sneeze" loads. 
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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #171 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 1:33pm
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Bikes, I’d like to see pictures of your rifle, (caliber marking and chamber with the action open) if you can post them, please.
  
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Reply #172 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 1:43pm
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Did a search of my database.  Found only three reported to be .25-20 WCF, including my relined one.  The other two are obvious rechamber jobs.
  

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Reply #173 - Feb 26th, 2022 at 4:03pm
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I'll try pics but had no luck before. Note the "G1 POPE" mark under the rear scope mount which I have been told is fake. Can someone send me an email address to post my pics?
  
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Reply #174 - Feb 27th, 2022 at 8:32am
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I have a 44 serial# 33443. J. Stevens A&T. 6 o'clock extractor. 
Lyman tang sight, filler in dovetail for rear sight, and a folding beech front sight (originally).
  
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Reply #175 - Feb 27th, 2022 at 8:55am
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bikes wrote on Feb 26th, 2022 at 4:03pm:
I'll try pics but had no luck before. Note the "G1 POPE" mark under the rear scope mount which I have been told is fake. Can someone send me an email address to post my pics?


Email 'em to me, I'll post 'em.  If they're cellphone pics, only send one at a time.  Cellphone files tend to be very large, and my email client tend to choke if there's more than one.
  

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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #176 - Feb 27th, 2022 at 9:00am
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northwoodneil wrote on Feb 27th, 2022 at 8:32am:
I have a 44 serial# 33443. J. Stevens A&T. 6 o'clock extractor. 
Lyman tang sight, filler in dovetail for rear sight, and a folding beech front sight (originally).


Thanks!  Cartridge?   Take off the forend wood and look at the face of the receiver.  With those sights it might be marked 45 and not 44.   
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Reply #177 - Feb 27th, 2022 at 6:06pm
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22LR and it's a 44 with #2 barrel
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Reply #178 - Feb 27th, 2022 at 8:10pm
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Pictures for Bikes...
  
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Reply #179 - Feb 27th, 2022 at 8:21pm
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Well, the barrel marking is standard for the .25 Stevens.  If it now takes a .25-20 WCF it must have been rechambered.

What's that scope?  Not OEM on a 44.
  

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