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Reply #105 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 4:15pm
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Here is a picture of my Stevens 44 coilspring action:
  
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Reply #106 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 4:16pm
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Reply #108 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 4:28pm
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I was shooting today with my 414 serial 781xx and my friend had a 44 serial about 783xx. Both were coil spring actions.
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Reply #109 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 6:19pm
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If interested here is my rifle.  Serial number 90211, 22 LR, J Stevens Arms Company on the barrel but thinking its been replaced because no serial number on it.  Although curious what the stamped numbers in circle are on left side of reciever and barrel.  Had this gun a long time, rear sight and scope came with the gun but had no front sight when I got it.

  
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Reply #110 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 7:30pm
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I like the little woody grab bit! Is it attached by screws through the front of the curl?
  
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Reply #111 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 7:53pm
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No screws.  Its two pieces that must have been inleted to the lever then glued together.  Its currently a bit loose, been thinking about injecting some epoxy into it.
If you like that you will really appreciate this.
  
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Reply #112 - Jul 1st, 2020 at 2:11pm
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Wow!  That's the highest s/n 44 I have seen.  Only one higher is a 414.  Obviously been worked over.  It looks like it might have a 414 forearm on it, along with the custom buttstock.  The barrel s/n may be under that, since it is longer than the normal 44 forearm.   It ought to be very accurate with the right ammo.  From what I can see of it, that's a Stevens scope.  How is it marked.?
  
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Reply #113 - Jul 2nd, 2020 at 9:15pm
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No marks on the scope.  Had a broken cross hair when I got it and Parson’s fix it.  Be nice to find out who made it.

Wondered about the serial number after reading this thread. 

I think the base stock is original and they added the wood overlay, the cheek piece is definitely glued on, did a pretty good job considering.   

I agree about the forearm but no serial number under it that I remember.  Took picture of every number on the gun originally and don’t find any pictures of numbers under that forearm.  Only mark on the front of the frame is an “S”.

Nice interesting accurate gun.

  
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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #114 - Jul 2nd, 2020 at 11:27pm
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Certainly is a nice piece of work.  If I were younger I'd ask you to remember me in your will.  Allyn Tedmon, who admittedly was a Stevens partisan, wrote that the last years of the 44/417 rifles were as accurate as the Winchester and Remington bolters, but got no love because they were awkward to use in the prone position.

I'm wrong about the scope.  Stevens didn't use that "mousetrap" wire spring in the rear mount.  Brain fade.......  Someone who still has all their marbles will have to chime in. 

  
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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #115 - Jul 3rd, 2020 at 6:50am
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Winchester scope possibly?
Does the action have a coilspring mainspring?
  
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Reply #116 - Jul 3rd, 2020 at 12:29pm
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Good question on the mainspring.  I assumed it does, never had the stock off.  Is there a way to tell without removing it?

I know nothing about old scopes so any info on what this one is will be interesting to me!

  
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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #117 - Jul 3rd, 2020 at 1:05pm
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The "mousetrap" spring is not Winchester's version, plus it looks hand-made.  The mounts resemble those used on Winchester .22s in the '30s and later; however, the scope is not an A5 or B4 and Winchester's later, cheaper scopes while unmarked have tubes of enameled brass rather than blued steel.  The steel tube also eliminates all the other "late" 22 scopes, except those made by Lyman, which I believe like Stevens scopes are always marked.  What's left?  Cataract, possibly, but that company was bought out by and formed the basis for Stevens' "scope department" likely well before the rifle our subject scioe's on was adapted to it.

I give up.  Anybody have Stroebel's Old Rifle Scopes or even his Old Gunsights & Rifle Scopes?

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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #118 - Jul 3rd, 2020 at 1:25pm
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I always assumed it was a cheaper scope, Parson’s didn’t know what it was and thought it was a cheaper scope from the day.  Also, now that you mentioned brass, it does look to be a brass tube, definitely not blued steel.
  
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Re: Dating Stevens Model 44
Reply #119 - Jul 12th, 2020 at 8:59am
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Looks like a Winchester from the 30's to me. I had one once that was in the original box.
  
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