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Ciao998 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Kennewick, WA Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #15 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:13pm	Print Post
	Schuetzen bob, thanks for the pic! I do believe that rifle had a sister and something unfortunate happened to it and the buttstock was salvaged and grafted to my rifle, it's more exact to mine than any I've seen. John


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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1630 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #16 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:43pm	Print Post
	John, That rifle sure is nice! Best of luck and enjoy. Bob

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 15996 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #17 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 4:44pm	Print Post
	That looks like an 1885 worth waiting the 24 years for! I think most any single shot enthusiast would be giddy to find one like it! I know I would!

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RSW Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1183 Location: Arizona Joined: Sep 8^th, 2006	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #18 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	John Really nice Winchester. Why not drag that puppy down to Raton in a coupl'a months? It'd be a good opportunity to not only take it out for a test drive but enter it into the Indy 500! Sign-in on July 27, ISSA Schuetzenfest competition runs July 28 through Aug 1. If you need a place to stay, I have a log cabin reserved at Whittington Center and we have room for another.

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Ciao998 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Kennewick, WA Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #19 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 5:21pm	Print Post
	Thank you so much for the invite RSW, I have always wanted to go, and I will. But I will likely be working in some far off place. I'm a pipeliner and as such I get to travel a lot and makes it hard to make plans. Might be headed to Colorado shortly, don't know. Also have a ballard project and a stevens project I need to get finished up....... John


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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 687 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #20 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:32pm	Print Post
	Strange his stamp is not on the top of the buttplate.


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Tom_Trevor assra life no.71 Oldtimer Offline Tom Trevor Posts: 687 Location: Granada Hills Ca. Joined: Jun 16^th, 2004	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #21 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 8:35pm	Print Post
	Bremmer triggers as well


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11421 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #22 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:37pm	Print Post
	John, I think the Andela bullets you used in your rifle are the perfect length for the twist in your rifle, assuming it's 16 inches. If the bullets tip just a tad, that won't hurt anything. Just means the bullet nose is trying to home in on the 25 ring. You believe that, don't you? Joedad

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Ciao998 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Kennewick, WA Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #23 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:00pm	Print Post
	Tom Trevor, beautiful rifle, the buttplate is not a bremer on mine, it's smaller. Looks like a ballard to me. The triggers who knows, bremer used different kinds. The checkering is definitely his. I wish sometimes there was documentation for every gun, but that might take away some of the fun! My rifle also had the lever replaced, by whom and when is a mystery, it still rough with cast marks. Also the buttstock is from a California Muzzleloader, grafted. Very nice work whoever done it. John


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Ciao998 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Kennewick, WA Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #24 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 10:04pm	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 9:37pm: John, I think the Andela bullets you used in your rifle are the perfect length for the twist in your rifle, assuming it's 16 inches. If the bullets tip just a tad, that won't hurt anything. Just means the bullet nose is trying to home in on the 25 ring. You believe that, don't you? Joedad Your my dad, it's my duty to believe you isn't it? It's on the brink, that's all I know. I will definitely play around with others too. I was rummaging around the other day and I still have some of your Ron long spitzers I'm gonna try too. John boy


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7246 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #25 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 1:20am	Print Post
	John, I looked at your rifle, shortly after Tony got it. I believe that the butt stock was made as a replaceable butt stock and not graphed on. I think that there is or used to be a bench rest stock out there somewhere that also fits into that V notch. As for your load, if you take it up to 14.8 gr 4227, it will definity stop the tipping. In my 16 twist HW, my average of 5, five shot groups @ 200 was 1.28 with that load and a 1.11 long RL bullet. Frank

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11421 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #26 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 1:30am	Print Post
	Work your way up slow, John. Your rifle has the old style firing pin. Joe.

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Ciao998 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Kennewick, WA Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #27 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 1:40am	Print Post
	Will do pa, was going to ask you first. Bringing the rifle with me when I come see you. John boy


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Jerry_H Ex Member	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #28 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 1:54am	Print Post
	John, Could you post a picture of the matting at the round to octagon transition? I found that to be a real test of a true craftsman. And if I remember right, the matting on the round part of the barrel is on a raised rib. How did they do that? You really did acquire a very unique rifle with lots of history. Enjoy! Jerry_H


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Ciao998 Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 263 Location: Kennewick, WA Joined: Oct 23^rd, 2013	Re: My very first Winchester Reply #29 - Jun 7^th, 2014 at 3:13am	Print Post
	10-4 Jerry, I'll get a close up if it for ya. How they did such things so nicely is impressive. All I know is during those days labor was extremely cheap and they were a lot smarter and better equipped than most folks give them credit for. John


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