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Guess the maker.
32-40 and matching 38-55 barrel.
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It Looks Winchester to me. But, I'm sure it couldn't be that simple!
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I know! I know! But I am disqualified since I was there when Joe bought it.
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shovel80 wrote
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It Looks Winchester to me. But, I'm sure it couldn't be that simple!
Terry
Meacham action, Badger barrels. F Zika Soule, Axtell globe via KAF. Thanks Keith.
Meacham made the action only.
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Beautiful Rifle!
Thanks for sharing!
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I like it!
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Guess the maker of the rifle. Bear in mind, Meacham made the action only.
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Hey Joe,
If you can, do another post on Johns rifle
I know the answer to that one, too
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Hi Frank.
Better let john post his rifle. May not want me to.
It's his rifle, wished it was mine.
Wheres the next match, Frank? I'm ready to do it again.
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Don't know who made the rifle, but that is one of the most attractive Schuetzen type stocks I have seen. How about a picture of the other side?
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Joe,
Is it a take down of some kind or does the 38-55 go on and off as normal? Like Chuckster says, "let's see the other side?
Nice looking rifle!
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Rifle is 32-40 now. No take down system.
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Hi Frank.
Better let john post his rifle. May not want me to.
It's his rifle, wished it was mine.
Wheres the next match, Frank? I'm ready to do it again.
Joe.
My next match (other than the local ones) will probably be Modesto in Oct.
Oh yes, I forgot that John is on the forum.
John,
Please post pictures of that beautiful (and accurate) rifle you bought at the match. I know that everyone on the forum would love to see it. I'm so glad you got it and I will get to see it in person again.
Now back to the "Mystery rifle"
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Frank are you thinking about the one Bruce bought from Jim Bordman. I also tend to think he built the rifle Westerner is currently speaking about and Ron Smith might have had his hand in tuning the action?
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John, I can answer that. The rifle Bruce bought was Chuck Bordmans hiwall. It was a varmink rifle with a huge cheek plate when Chuck acquired it in the seventy's. Bill Crane installed a Barry Darr barrel on it. Chuck used the rifle for many years. Then about 1990 Bill Crane set the barrel back to freshen the throat. Rifle has a Niedner firing pin and single set trigger. It was re-hardened in colors about five years ago by Wyoming Armory. Chuck was the man to beat when he used that rifle, and he used it a lot. Beware the man who shoots but one rifle.
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Beautiful rifle Joe.
Enjoy it!
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Joe did your rifle come from Jim as well, I didn't see it in Tony's collection.
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Frank is that the rifle you were thinking about or is it the Darr Falling Block works rifle we picked up last year.
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John,
The rifle that I'm refering to is a HW that was sold to Joe's son by Tony. I liked it very much but, did not have anywhere near the funds to buy it
I do hope he post's it but, it's his rifle and I will get to see it again
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JLouis wrote
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Joe did your rifle come from Jim as well, I didn't see it in Tony's collection.
No. Don't know what Jim you are referring to. Unless you're thinking of Chuck Bordman.
Found out today, the stocks on my rifle were hand made.
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I was indeed reffering to Chuck and not sure where the Jim came from. But then half the time I can't remember who I am these days. That is a very nice looking rifle Joe and I hope it shoots as good as it looks.
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I was indeed reffering to Chuck and not sure where the Jim came from. But then half the time I can't remember who I am these days. That is a very nice looking rifle Joe and I hope it shoots as good as it looks.
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I was indeed reffering to Chuck and not sure where the Jim came from. But then half the time I can't remember who I am these days. That is a very nice looking rifle Joe and I hope it shoots as good as it looks.
JLouis
Thanks, John. I did use it for the IS portion of the ISSA NW regional. Used bullets that came with the rifle. Very hard to breech seat with the Weber seater. First bench target was very poor. Leaned on my ole bud Jack for some of his Saeco tapered .32's. Could barely feel resistance when seating them. Second target was much much better. Most shots being in the 24 ring. Think it will be a good shooter. One of my OH targets had eight shots within the 21 ring and two way out in the 15 at eleven oclock. So, seems to agree with me as to fit.
Hint. AB is the initials of the builder.
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I know. I know who made it, but only because Joe sent me the pictures last week and told me who put it all together (rather magnificently if I may say so). But, I'm not going to let on who it was, I don't want to spoil Joe's fun.
I can say I knew of this gunsmith by reputation even over here on the other side of the 'Pond'
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Such a sweet rifle pa, I really wish I had that one too.
Too many irons in the fire! The more I look at it, the more I wish I'd said screw the budget! Oh well, I have an 1885 that I love! Time to look forward
I'll post some pics tomorrow.
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Joe, Think the initials gave it away. If it is who I think, it is one of the very best. Have never seen a single shot by him. Think he worked in your part of the country.
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Okay. Who is it? You get to guess too Chuck.
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I been holding this pot of beans long enough, Chuck.
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Al Beison ( Wrong Speeling?) From Wa.
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Way to go, John Louis!! Yes, Al Biesen of Spokane WA.
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Should have known with one look at the stock. Outstanding piece of stock making history by one of the best and a real treasure to own.
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I read that yesterday, John.
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