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35-40 Maynard load data
Apr 12th, 2014 at 12:08pm
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Has anybody out there shot 35-40 Maynard smokeless loads?  If so, what do you suggest for starting load data?  I have a 175g boolit mold made special for the throat of my Maynard rifle.  Just don't know what powder and weight to start off with.
  
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Re: 35-40 Maynard load data
Reply #1 - Apr 12th, 2014 at 5:44pm
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I think DeadEyeBly built a BPCS rifle in that caliber for his son a few years back.  I don't know whether he did any load development with smokeless or not, but you might check the archives under his name or drop him a PM.   

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Reply #2 - Apr 12th, 2014 at 7:01pm
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  Ron Jon U.S.N. -- I am of the opinion that these center fire Maynard conversions, which category they all fall into, are not suited for smokeless powder loading.  The actions were designed and manufactured by Mass Arms under Civil War contracts, were all originally percussion black powder cartridge, and each made it's way back to Mass Arms as war surplus for conversion to central fire.

Now, you say you want to know about smokeless loads?  Not from this Maynard shooter/re-loader.  My umbrella policy is only good for one million maximum.   

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Reply #3 - Apr 12th, 2014 at 7:56pm
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I think the bpcr versions of the 35-40 maynard will be around 330-340 grain bullet with aprox 46-48 grains 1 1/2 swiss and 10 twist barrel or so. At least that is what mine is and I have never considered smokeless for it. LB
  
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Re: 35-40 Maynard load data
Reply #4 - Apr 12th, 2014 at 8:57pm
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I don't have a 35/40 Maynard, have never shot one nor ever made a barrel for one so I have no experience at all with that cartridge. I'm an advocate of shooting black powder in Maynard black powder cartridges. The only smokeless powder burned in mine are rimfire cartridges. Maynard frames all originated during the Civil War and should be respected as such.
  
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Re: 35-40 Maynard load data
Reply #5 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 8:22am
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OK, fair enough.  Although I do use smokeless in the rifles, all of them are reduced loads, that is "gallery loads", used for short range offhand work.   I will try BP in the 35-40 because I want to reach out a little further with it.  Since I have not used BP for about 40 years, what is a good "modern" BP for cartridge loading?  How do you guys like the Swiss and Schuetzen powders?  I assume I should get 2F for loading brass.  Help me out here, I have been out of the BP stuff for a long time.  Thanks
  
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Re: 35-40 Maynard load data
Reply #6 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 8:53am
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I'm thinking that your 35-40 should be similar to my 32-40, so I would use 2Fg Swiss or KIK, maybe Old Eynesford [sp?] from GOEX.

Use pistol primers and fill the case to the bottom of the bullet for a slight amount of compression.  Wipe the bore between shots for target accuracy [water dampened patch works good]. 

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Re: 35-40 Maynard load data
Reply #7 - Apr 13th, 2014 at 4:13pm
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In Nonte's Modern Handloading, he gives one load for the Maynard 35/40:

Lyman 35875, 250 gr, 6.0 gr Unique. 

The load is noted for the weakest of actions.

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Re: 35-40 Maynard load data
Reply #8 - Apr 14th, 2014 at 5:54pm
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OK, fair enough.  I will try BP in the 35-40 because I want to reach out a little further with it. Help me out here, I have been out of the BP stuff for a long time.  Thanks


Ron Jon U.S.N. --- I am sleeping much better now that I know you will do your "distance shooting" w/ the Maynard 35-40 C.F. conversion using Black Powder exclusively.

I have a friend who is not quite as intellegent as you have demostrated you are.  He didn't believe that the standing breech was a cut down percussion action and a new C.F. replacement top was attached to the milled off flat with pins.  He went upon his merry way excercising his right of personal choice, and I wont add what happened.

Well to make a long story short, the surgery went well except they didn't get all those tiny pieces of Norwegian iron, so now when it rains he gets more than a few rust stains running down from his forehead.

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Re: 35-40 Maynard load data
Reply #9 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 5:14pm
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On a related subject, just bought an interesting mold identical to the unidentified one on p 62 of Chamberlain/Quigley's book stamped 35  240 which casts 230.5 grains and .354-.355 across the base, 5 grooves and a small flat nose which I THINK is a 35-30 or -40 mold.  Any opinion?

Also, I shot my 32-35 Maynard yesterday with 10 gr 4227 and an as cast bullet from an Ideal tool, 168.5 gr and .1-.2 over groove of .312.  The report barely cracked.  The rifle didn't.  Just to muddy the water.  Previously used 152 gr .311 lovern bullet which keyholed nicely.

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Re: 35-40 Maynard load data
Reply #10 - Apr 21st, 2014 at 3:33am
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Wiping with water when shooting BP can lead to rusting problems unless you are careful about cleaning the gun well soon after shooting. A mix of 5-1 water and water-soluble cutting oil from Arizona Sharpshooters, NAPA auto parts and Amazon works well and helps guard against rusting and also adds a bit of lubricant to barrel between shots. 

I've been experimenting with OE and it is pretty good stuff. Either 2F or 3F should work well in your small cartridge. Don't forget the wad. For 35cal you may need to cut your own with a wad punch. Track of the Wolf and Buffalo Arms are good sources for the punch.
  

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Re: 35-40 Maynard load data
Reply #11 - Apr 21st, 2014 at 8:51am
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I got my 35 rifle wads from John Walters. I think he still punches them.  LB
  
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