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John Boy
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Hoch 322215 - Anyone familiar with the mold?
Apr 4th, 2014 at 6:49pm
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Mold stamped: 322215 ... 6 4 04 ... C6628 (Custom)?
Mold is not in Hoch catalog

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Bullet:
213.3gr - 213.5gr (1:20) - 5 band - 6 GG - tapered 
1.1000 ... long
3145 - nose
3150 - 1st band
3165 - 2nd band
3190 - 3rd band
3195 - 4th band
3200 - 5th band
3235 - base
Pope clone or design?


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Re: Hoch 322215 - Anyone familiar with the mold?
Reply #1 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 9:09pm
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Nose pour? Casts at 218 -219gr using 25:1 lead:tin?  I borrowed what sounds like the one to which you refer. I have a bunch of bullets for testing, but the mold is "out of reach" for the time being. Let me know how and/or if I can help.
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 10:50pm
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Okey ... Hoch nose pour ... 213gr (1:20)

Now I have to find a starting charge for the 213gr weight bullet.
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 11:47pm
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What makes that mold so popular, John raves about it, I see other recommend that same model?
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 5th, 2014 at 8:42am
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John Boy -With CPA rifle in .32-20CPA, 28" Shilen #4, 14 twist barrel, I've gotten good testing results using 10.7-12.0gr  AA#9, cork wad .010 - .020" off the powder, breech seated 1/16". Primers were CCI BR4. Best groups seem to be at each of higher and lower charges. Both were tested under nearly identical conditions. I feel further testing will produce better results. I'm trying Fed 205M primers, AA4100 & veggie wads. So many variables ......
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Reply #5 - Apr 5th, 2014 at 12:13pm
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JohnBoy will you be using it in a 32-40 and if so what is the twist rate and which Action.

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Reply #6 - Apr 5th, 2014 at 3:07pm
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John: Using it in a CPA 44 1/2 - 32-40 ... Douglas 312 land - 3201 groove - 1:15 twist
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 5th, 2014 at 6:04pm
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JohnBoy for 200yd. work an average velocity of about 1474fps. seems to work for the majority out my way. 14.2grs. of AA-9, H108, WW296 or 14.4grs. of 300MP will get you there so just start low and work your way up to it. This would be for breach seating and not fixed.

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Reply #8 - Apr 5th, 2014 at 7:49pm
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John, 300-MP will be the 1st breech seated reloads with 14.4grs for starters with a chronograph
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Reply #9 - Apr 5th, 2014 at 8:00pm
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John 300MP tends to like WWMagnum Primers so if have any give them a try or any others you that might have. If by chance you want to start your load development at 100yds. 13.7 to 13.9 grains seems to be the sweet spot for that distance. For your 200yd. starting point I would start at 14.0 and go up from there not knowing what your altitude density is.

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Re: Hoch 322215 - Anyone familiar with the mold?
Reply #10 - Apr 6th, 2014 at 8:01am
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The 215 gr. may be just a little long for a 1:15 Douglas. You need something about 1.050 long. That should give you a bullet about 195 to 200 grains. You may be able to push the longer bullet hard enough to stabilize but you will be pushing it hard. With a 1.050” bullet a velocity of about 1450 works well.

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Reply #11 - Apr 7th, 2014 at 7:03am
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Here is the bullet I'm using in my 1-15 Douglas.
  
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Re: Hoch 322215 - Anyone familiar with the mold?
Reply #12 - Apr 7th, 2014 at 8:56am
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John Louis, 

So with a lower altitude density ( say 4500 ft at 70 F) what change  is required in the charge compared to you guys on the coast? 

I would add that I am very pleased with 300 MP but have not had time to do any load development so I still using 14.2 gr with WWM primers under a 207 gr Hoch bullet.   

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Reply #13 - Apr 7th, 2014 at 10:32am
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Dave I don't know exactly but I do not think it would be much as the air would be just a tad thinner. It is one of those things that needs to be sorted out at ones home range. Happy to hear the 300MP and the WWMag. Primers are working out for you.

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Re: Hoch 322215 - Anyone familiar with the mold?
Reply #14 - Sep 23rd, 2015 at 9:10pm
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Today I has a good day at the range trying out my (new to me) Mitchell scope. I know that this blog is an older one but I thought I would share the results as there has been a lot of discussion on the best twist of rifling and best powders as of late. The barrel is a Shilen 1-14" and is stamped .3195. Hope this info is of some help. AND sorry about the Cast Bullet Association target but it was the only one I had with me at the range.
The powder is 4227 and is 14.4 gr.
lube is NRA Alox pan lubed
bullet is breach seated with a 1/8" floral foam wad 1/10" off of the powder
weight of bullet is 217.2 gr  1:20
Fed pistol primer
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