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44 1/2 22-15 SS
Mar 25th, 2014 at 3:29pm
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I picked up a fairly decent 44 1/2 at a gun show this week end. Probably into it for more than I should be, but such is life.
I was just wondering if anyone has an idea of how many were produced in 22-15 relative to the other chamberings available during 44 1/2 production?
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Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS
Reply #1 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 3:34pm
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Anybody's guess, since the production records were all destroyed.
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 3:42pm
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I'd accept an educated guess. . .


and any extra ammo that anyone has. Wink
  
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Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS
Reply #3 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 5:21pm
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gewehrfreund wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 3:42pm:
I'd accept an educated guess. . .



I wrote an article for THE GUN REPORT ten years ago about the 22-15 titled Stevens' Other 22. Here was my comment about the number made.

"The shooting fraternity, however, did not embrace the new 22-15. Considering that the cartridge was available from Stevens over a twenty year period, and offered in both their Ideal 44 1/2 as well as the Favorite 'Ladies' Model, the 22-15 is one of the least frequently encountered chamberings found in Stevens rifles by todays collectors. Indeed, one could go out on a limb and say that it is the least frequently seen."

I then provided a footnote that although Stevens records are lost, we do have some Winchester numbers available about how many Winchester Single Shots were made in 22-15. From 1897, the approximate time that Winchester would have offered their SS in 22-15, until 1910 (where records stop for the Model 1885) there were 32,500 Single Shots manufactured. Of this number, only 195 (or .006%) were made in 22-15. It is also unlikely that many additional Winchester Single Shots were made in 22-15 after 1910. 

Here's pictures of my 22-15 from the article.

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Reply #4 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 6:30pm
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John very nice Rifle how does it shoot.

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Reply #5 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 7:48pm
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Thank you John. Beautiful rifle. I hope to get some brass in the near future, slug the barrel and get a few shots off.
  
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Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS
Reply #6 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 8:27pm
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John, I've sent you a P/M

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Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS
Reply #7 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 9:13pm
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.32-35, I have a photocopy of that article. You may have been the one who sent it to me. Can't recall. Good article. I would say that that chambering in a 44 1/2 would be extremely rare. No way to put a  number on how many. I thought my 44 1/2 in .22 short was an odd one. Model 45, 28" barrel, no slot in the barrel for rear sight, Stevens 207 Windage front sight, Lyman 2A rear sight. Should have a Stevens 102 Vernier rear sight but it only had the base for that sight on it when I bought it so I used what I had on hand. It would be nice if factory records had not been destroyed after WWII so you knew how many were made.
  
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Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS
Reply #8 - Mar 25th, 2014 at 9:28pm
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I have an 044-1/2 in .22-15 Stevens centerfire.  You can get brass from Rocky Mountain Cartridge Co.  From my experience, the cartridge was strictly for cranks.  It did not have anywhere near the user friendliness of the small .25 caliber cartridges, and they were pretty much the technological cutting edge back in the black powder days.  Few hunters or target shooters would have wanted to bother with anything smaller.

I've seen maybe four .22-15 marked barrels in nearly 40 years of prowling gun shows, as opposed to maybe a thousand .25-20 single shots.
  
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Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS
Reply #9 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 8:05am
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Good information.
I was most attracted to this rifle because it compliments my 44 1/2 22rf well, it hadn't been messed with AT ALL, the bore was very nice, and the dealer was willing to take a couple of my rifles that I really wanted to trade.
This rifle has a 205 front sight, a 102 tang sight, plus the standard semi-buckhorn barrel sight. I'm tempted to move the 103 Lyman from the rimfire to this one, since the rimfire has target scope bases.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 11:24am
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Photos?
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 1:12pm
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Some where in my stuff I have a 22-15 Stevens barrel.I wonder if I can find it.
  
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Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS
Reply #12 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 3:25pm
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podufa, would your Barrel fit a Favorite or a 044 1/2?

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Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS
Reply #13 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 4:06pm
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Don't know,I have had it a while but haven't seen it for a while. Seems like it had something wrong with it.I think I can find it if you are interested.
  
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Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS
Reply #14 - Mar 26th, 2014 at 6:38pm
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If Ron isn't interested in the 22-15 barrel, I would probably be.  
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