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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #15 - Mar 26^th, 2014 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2014 at 11:24am: Photos? First of all, glad I could facilitate some off-classifieds sales activity Excuse the poor pictures; gale-force, sub-zero windchill breeze prevents outdoor shots. Can't wait til Spring finally arrives. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Not much in the way case colors left, but someone did at least put some lacquer on the receiver.


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #16 - Mar 26^th, 2014 at 8:18pm	Print Post
	Not bad, the bore is the important thing. Just got done putting a coat of Renaissance Wax on all my 44's and 44 1/2's and the case color varies from nice and bright to non existent. These guns are all right at 100 years old now and some have been carried and used a lot. If the bores are good, I still am interested in them. Not a lot of 44 1/2's built in the first place.


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ron Oldtimer Offline Posts: 576 Location: Augusta Maine Joined: Nov 15^th, 2009	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #17 - Mar 26^th, 2014 at 10:22pm	Print Post
	podfa PM sent ron


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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #18 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:14am	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on Mar 26^th, 2014 at 8:18pm: Not bad, the bore is the important thing. Just got done putting a coat of Renaissance Wax on all my 44's and 44 1/2's and the case color varies from nice and bright to non existent. These guns are all right at 100 years old now and some have been carried and used a lot. If the bores are good, I still am interested in them. Not a lot of 44 1/2's built in the first place. The bore is really good, even great, which was a pre-requisite for me buying it. It's funny how little repsect these fine old single shots get these days by the great unwashed masses. I got this at a large east coast gun show, and there was almost no interest in it until I did the trade right near the end of the show. It was the only 44 1/2 at the show. There were quite a few Favorites, etc. and a smattering of 44's. I'm sure very few people who walked by it even knew it was a 44 1/2 and what the difference is.


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #19 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	I don't know where you are located but I am in Southern Illinois, close to St. Louis Mo. Same thing here. Don't see many good Stevens and not too many people know what they are. Guy up at the New Berlin Ill show knows them well but he is one of the few. What is at local gun shows is often over priced. Also see a 44 occasionally but never a 44 1/2. Stumbled across a 418 Walnut Hill in .25 Stevens several years ago at a St. Louis show. Guy had no idea what it was and I grabbed it for $600 as I recall. Gun was in great shape. Still looking for a 418 in .22 WRF. Have a .22 Short and a .22 Long Rifle. Now you have gotten me looking for a .22-15!
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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #20 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 8:23am	Print Post
	slumlord44 wrote on Mar 27^th, 2014 at 8:37pm: I don't know where you are located but I am in Southern Illinois, close to St. Louis Mo. Same thing here. Don't see many good Stevens and not too many people know what they are. Guy up at the New Berlin Ill show knows them well but he is one of the few. What is at local gun shows is often over priced. Also see a 44 occasionally but never a 44 1/2. Stumbled across a 418 Walnut Hill in .25 Stevens several years ago at a St. Louis show. Guy had no idea what it was and I grabbed it for $600 as I recall. Gun was in great shape. Still looking for a 418 in .22 WRM. Have a .22 Short and a .22 Long Rifle. Now you have gotten me looking for a .22-15! I'm here to help. . . Did you mean 22 WRF? (not WRM!)


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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #21 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 9:52am	Print Post
	Yes. Typo or brain fade. .22 WRF.


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Turret1BB63 Junior Member Offline Posts: 59 Location: NE Minnesota Joined: Jan 21^st, 2014	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #22 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 10:48am	Print Post
	I recently purchased a Model 044-1/2 in 22-15-60. The barrel is marked '22-15 SS', but no makers marks are found anywhere on the gun. I have brass, but need .228" bullets. My plans for casting will have to be expedited, as no bullet outfits list those bullets!

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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #23 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	Bent_Ramrod wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 9:28pm: I have an 044-1/2 in .22-15 Stevens centerfire. You can get brass from Rocky Mountain Cartridge Co. From my experience, the cartridge was strictly for cranks. It did not have anywhere near the user friendliness of the small .25 caliber cartridges, and they were pretty much the technological cutting edge back in the black powder days. Few hunters or target shooters would have wanted to bother with anything smaller. I've seen maybe four .22-15 marked barrels in nearly 40 years of prowling gun shows, as opposed to maybe a thousand .25-20 single shots. Rocky Mountain Cartridge had some 22-15 already made up, so I got these in record time. The rims seem to be a tad too thick for my rifle. I can "almost" close the action on them with out using very excessive force. So, now I have to figure out the best way to take a couple thousandths off the front of the rim in a uniform way.


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uscra112 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4079 Location: Switzerland of Ohio Joined: May 7^th, 2007	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #24 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 6:02pm	Print Post
	It's easy if you have a lathe or a drill press. Ask me.

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Turret1BB63 Junior Member Offline Posts: 59 Location: NE Minnesota Joined: Jan 21^st, 2014	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #25 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	My RMC brass required a few strokes with a file before I could close the breech properly. I had CH Dies make a custom shellholder for my modified cases. The CH shellholder that came with my dies would not allow an original UMC cartridge to slide in place! Either way, a custom shellholder was required.
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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #26 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 8:42pm	Print Post
	You may want to try running the case through a sizing die first and seeing if it fits.


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Turret1BB63 Junior Member Offline Posts: 59 Location: NE Minnesota Joined: Jan 21^st, 2014	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #27 - Apr 20^th, 2014 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	In my case, the RMC brass dropped right into the chamber with ease. I took a bit off the base with a file until the breech closed properly. After that, I seated a primer to see if my filing affected the depth of the primer pocket. The primer seated, with no excess force, to a point just a skosh beyond flush. I have a mold for the 22 Savage that makes a 60 grain bullet. I am slowly acquiring the tools to begin casting. Montana Bullet Works listed .228" bullets, but have since gone out of business.

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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #28 - Apr 21^st, 2014 at 8:32am	Print Post
	uscra112 wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 6:02pm: It's easy if you have a lathe or a drill press. Ask me. Got the drill press, but no lathe.


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gewehrfreund Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 437 Location: Cortland Joined: Jan 24^th, 2005	Re: 44 1/2 22-15 SS Reply #29 - Apr 21^st, 2014 at 8:35am	Print Post
	Turret1BB63 wrote on Apr 20^th, 2014 at 9:12pm: In my case, the RMC brass dropped right into the chamber with ease. I took a bit off the base with a file until the breech closed properly. After that, I seated a primer to see if my filing affected the depth of the primer pocket. The primer seated, with no excess force, to a point just a skosh beyond flush. I have a mold for the 22 Savage that makes a 60 grain bullet. I am slowly acquiring the tools to begin casting. Montana Bullet Works listed .228" bullets, but have since gone out of business. As difficult and costly as these cases are to acquire, I'm reluctant to take anything off the back and risk making them unusable, but your experience is encouragaing.


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