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spitball Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Mar 12^th, 2013	Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	So, vision not what it used to be, is it time for a scope? I'm looking for recommendations for a scope to mount on a Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up in 22 Cal. My plan was to shoot the 100 yd ASSRA postal match. Try to attach pics!!


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spitball Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Mar 12^th, 2013	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #1 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:08pm	Print Post
	Spitball here again, really wanted to post two pics, one closed and one open


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16159 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #2 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:22pm	Print Post
	My question would be, do you have any qualms about drilling and tapping the barrel? If not, then I'd find a period style external adjustment scope of at least 8x-10x power, and go with it. I'm sure the modern scopes would be more competitive, but would look completely out of place. So I guess the question is whether you are looking to compete, or to have the most competitive scope?

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broken_arrow Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Lancaster County Joined: Aug 12^th, 2008	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #3 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	I would not drill and tap. Get a set of Steve Earle's dovetail scope mounts, then use a long tube scope.

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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 646 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #4 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	What was the original caliber? And, is the top barrel flat knurled?


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #5 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:43pm	Print Post
	broken_arrow wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:25pm: ...use a long tube scope. Which would produce quite a cumbersome rig--or so I found on a Maynard I once had. Would look great, & wouldn't be bad for the infrequent shots taken in hunting, but for target shooting of any kind, I think on a top-break it would prove a nuisance.


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spitball Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Mar 12^th, 2013	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #6 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm	Print Post
	First of all, thanks for the input. marlinguy, yes, I do have qualms about drilling and tapping, and I can be talked out of it. broken arrow even dovetails means cutting into the barrel, less obtrusive and I can fill with metal if needed, also how long "is a long tube scope" I was thinking 18 inches. bohemianway 22 cal original, "flat kurled" don't know what that means, but I don't think so. bedsetter, you have a very valid point. So I think I will have to ponder this a bit more. Thanks Spitball


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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1093 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #7 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:36pm	Print Post
	The .22 is a RARE caliber in these rifles, and is .22 short, at least originally. It would be a better bet to get a good mechanic to fit a new .22 bbl to it. This would make a more useful rifle. Tapping it for a scope would drop the value at least $100/ hole. CHRIS RGChristensen


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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #8 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:41pm	Print Post
	spitball wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm: ...how long "is a long tube scope"... Spitball Think what he meant was one long enough to reach muzzle of barrel, so that the front sight slot could be used to attach the front mount. 18" would be a very practical size, but usually requires D&T.


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jfeldman ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1083 Location: Imperial Beach, Ca Joined: Nov 5^th, 2005	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #9 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:00pm	Print Post
	There's been some traffic here lately about attaching a scope mount with marine adhesive to avoid the D&T. Regards, Joe


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broken_arrow Full Member Offline Posts: 202 Location: Lancaster County Joined: Aug 12^th, 2008	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #10 - Mar 26^th, 2014 at 9:13am	Print Post
	Spitball, What I meant was to use the dovetail mount in the rear sight slot and one in the front sight slot. Then use a scope that would reach end to end. There would be no removal of original metal and it could be returned to original at any time. The point about it being unwieldy is a good one to think about. And, the adhesives discussed here are another viable option.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16159 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #11 - Mar 26^th, 2014 at 10:05am	Print Post
	spitball wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:10pm: First of all, thanks for the input. marlinguy, yes, I do have qualms about drilling and tapping, and I can be talked out of it. broken arrow even dovetails means cutting into the barrel, less obtrusive and I can fill with metal if needed, also how long "is a long tube scope" I was thinking 18 inches. bohemianway 22 cal original, "flat kurled" don't know what that means, but I don't think so. bedsetter, you have a very valid point. So I think I will have to ponder this a bit more. Thanks Spitball Well if you don't want to D&T for scope mount bases, then the only other option that will look good and work is the full length scope mounted in the existing dovetails, as previously mentioned. Holes will mess up the gun's value, but a period scope mounted in those holes will be more acceptable than a repro or modern scope. The problem is period scopes are expensive, even in lower 4x-6x power.

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Redsetter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 3468 Location: New York Joined: Aug 6^th, 2013	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #12 - Mar 26^th, 2014 at 10:22am	Print Post
	marlinguy wrote on Mar 26^th, 2014 at 10:05am: [quote author=54514C4C545D5E5B380 link=1395763563/6#6 date=1395785457] The problem is period scopes are expensive, even in lower 4x-6x power. Cost even of a Stevens 141 or 161 would equal value of gun, & Malcolms, etc., twice that or more. (Length needed is barrel length PLUS about 4 in.) So more sensible to look for second hand repro, the cheapest of which have better optics than originals.


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2838 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #13 - Mar 26^th, 2014 at 11:23am	Print Post
	Have you shot the rifle at 100 yards? What were the results, even with the original sights?


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spitball Newbie Offline Posts: 9 Joined: Mar 12^th, 2013	Re: Frank Wesson Two Trigger Tip Up Reply #14 - Mar 26^th, 2014 at 10:30pm	Print Post
	Waterman, I changed my sight picture today and shot 5 rounds in a 3 inch circle at 50 yards. Front sight is a Beech style post, I changed to a 6 oclock hold, seems to work better. Now its "hold'em and squezzum" time. I'll post results at 100 yards. BTW, I do not think I will mount a scope. I have a Stevens No 404, that I will work on.


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