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nashoba Participating Member Offline Posts: 20 Location: Sawyer Ok Joined: Sep 5^th, 2012	recoil springs on unertl type scopes Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:19am	Print Post
	Are these springs allowed to be used in schuetzen type matches


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KAF Ex Member	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #1 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:34am	Print Post
	Under ASSRA rules..........YEP


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ledball Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1011 Location: syracuse, ohio Joined: Nov 20^th, 2009	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #2 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:05am	Print Post
	Mashona IMO these recoil springs are useless, they cannot be trusted to return the scope to battery, if you tighten the spring enough to return the scope to battery every time, then you take a good chance of pulling the screws loose in the bases. Ledball


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Green_Frog Frequent Elocutionist Offline "It ain't easy being green" ASSRA Life #281 Posts: 4034 Location: Lynchburg, VA Joined: Apr 18^th, 2004	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #3 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:38am	Print Post
	+! to what ledball said. I either use my external adjust scopes without springs or with the spring adjusted so loosely it doesn't really do much. But to answer your question, yes, they are legal. Froggie


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rr2241tx Full Member Offline Posts: 108 Location: San Marcos Joined: Mar 27^th, 2012	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #4 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:39am	Print Post
	How much difference does it make if the scope is not 100% returned to battery?


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #5 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:51am	Print Post
	You achieve a different point of impact on the target / points lost. JLouis

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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2838 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #6 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	We should be able to test that with a .22 rimfire at 100 yards.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16157 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #7 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 12:18pm	Print Post
	I've always just made that one more step in my shooting. It's pretty easy to repeat the loading and firing procedure and add pulling the scope back as another step in the procedure. I put all the springs in a drawer and never missed them.

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nashoba Participating Member Offline Posts: 20 Location: Sawyer Ok Joined: Sep 5^th, 2012	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #8 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 1:30pm	Print Post
	I use the springs on the scope on both of my Winchester 52's and they shoot very very well. But I am building myself a Winchester high wall Schuetzen rifle and I want to be able to use both the aperture sights and the scope that is the reason for the question, Thanks men for the info. Steve


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bohemianway Oldtimer Offline Posts: 646 Location: Andover, MN Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #9 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 5:10pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Mar 25^th, 2014 at 11:51am: You achieve a different point of impact on the target / points lost. JLouis Disagree, you can let it slide back inches without affecting point of impact. The scope is moving in a straight line and the x-hairs will not point to a different location regardless of position in the mounts. Charles


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #10 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:26pm	Print Post
	Point of impact does indeed change based on my experiance with the several scopes that I have owned both Lyman and Unertl and points have indeed been lost. Just my personnel experiance and there might also be those that might not notice the ill affect nor have any? JLouis

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rgchristensen Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1093 Joined: Jan 2^nd, 2014	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #11 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 6:41pm	Print Post
	These springs are not for "return to battery", but to catch the scope in recoil. So they are only needed if there is considerable recoil. If, indeed, they are set tight enough return to battery, they will give the scope and mounts more of a rap than the recoil in the first place. Form the habit of pulling the scope back after you load each shot. CHRIS RGChristensen


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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #12 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 7:39pm	Print Post
	Totally agree Chris and it also helps to rotate it towards one side of the Pope Rib while doing so as the front mount is generally pretty loosie goosie around the rib. The rear mount tension plunger can also be a sort of problem area as well as it tends to get a little sticky at times. The flat surfaces of both the windage and elevation pads also need to remain flat and void from any grooves caused by wear or when one makes changes they will get real squirrelly. JLouis

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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7552 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #13 - Mar 25^th, 2014 at 10:18pm	Print Post
	Point of Impact changes if the scope is not returned to battery. And you can't trust the spring to do it. Like Chris said it's there to catch the scope on recoil. Boats


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: recoil springs on unertl type scopes Reply #14 - Mar 26^th, 2014 at 8:17am	Print Post
	I was taught to never trust the spring, as it will let you down at the most inopportune time (like your 10th shot). All my scopes are set with the spring just off the mount. My routine is seat the bullet, load the cartridge pull back the scope, set the trigger. After a while you won’t even know your doing it. 40 Rod


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