joeb33050 wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 5:29pm:


Not unheard of.  

But it is the shallow seating of a primer that scares me - the occasional hang-fire and the consequences of a round going off late as the chamber is opened.

All it takes is ONE experience with a round going off when the chamber isn't quite closed and your attitude changes forever.   

Cat_Whisperer wrote on Mar 14^th, 2014 at 10:51pm:

Since 1960
I've never had a hang fire, a ctg fire after the firing pin hit the primer, that had as much as a second between click and boom. I've had some/several/many click-boom shots.
Therefore, I've never had a ctg go boom after the breech was open.
I've opened the breech immediately after the click, many times.
I do not believe that there is such a thing as a hang fire, where there is more than a few milliseconds between click and boom.
That said, on the rare occasions where I get a click and no boom, I wait a minute or more for the boom. No boom yet.
I recently had a flurry of boomless clicks, 6 of them, with my first try of TULA SP primers in .223 Rem. Increasing the firing pin protrusion from ~.045" to~ .060" got the booming going again.

SSShooter wrote on Mar 13^th, 2014 at 7:01pm:

Instead of the traditional snide remarks, why not explain just why this method is dangerous. We know you can do snide, can you do smart?

It is not the frequency of the occurrence, be it 99%ok, 99.9% ok, 99.99% ok or 99.9999999% ok; it IS the severity of the consequence of the occurrence.

Having experienced one event of a cartridge going off without the benefit of the breech being fully closed and, as a result, being able to look inside my hand and see two tendons, I choose to err on the side of caution.  You may choose to wait as long or short after the 'click' as you wish before you open the breech.

In that context with a protruding primer, the choice is similar.

joeb33050 wrote on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 4:56am:


Not BS.  Simply disagree and choose to take a safer style of loading.

podufa wrote on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Will 23 1/2 grains of SR 4759 fit in a 30-30 case? Another noodlehead, blabbing onward.

podufa wrote on Mar 16^th, 2014 at 5:58pm:

Yes, I made a mistake reloading 20 years ago. I wrote an article about the experience, hoping to keep others from making the same mistake. I included pictures of my deformed trigger finger and mention of the mistake in all 3 editions of the book to warn others about the importance of safety. I write down my mistakes, successes and failures.
Now we have a fellow suggesting that my 54 years of cast bullet and reloading experience is suspect because of a mistake I made twenty years ago.
I was pretty sure that none of the noodleheads could infuriate me, that I was hardened and immune to rank stupidity. I was wrong.