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Mystery Fecker Type Scope
Mar 11th, 2014 at 1:44am
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I bought a 20X external scope about 1 1/2 years ago. It has a 3/4" tube and is built much like a Fecker but, has a painted aluminum bell and eye piece. The mounts are aluminum but, are fully machined and anodized, not cast like a Fecker or Unertl.

It is a quality made scope but, it is not marked in any way, also note the slip on scope cap, the ocular also had one. Maybe is a "one of"  made by a talented machinist that also knew how to build a good scope?

I know Parsons built licenced Lyman copies and another long scope of there own for BP but, does anyone know if he ever built a Fecker copy?

It looks to me, as a machinist that it might have been built in the 70's or later. Has anyone seen advertizing of a scope like this or know of anyone that might have one like mine?

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Reply #1 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 6:32am
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Frank,
The front end of that scope looks a lot like a Davis Optical I had one time.  He was the successor to Litschert.
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:36am
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830singleshot wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 6:32am:
Frank,
The front end of that scope looks a lot like a Davis Optical I had one time.  He was the successor to Litschert.


But did he ever build the focusing adjustment into the inverter lens?

I looked through several issues of The Rifle from the '70s & '80s, but saw no ads for such a scope.  A fascinating book published in 1950 by Truman Henson, Sporting Rifles & Scope Sights, provides detailed plans & instructions for building a target scope having inverter-lens focusing, which for various reasons he thought the ideal design.  Frank, if you're a machinist, you NEED this book!
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:44am
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This scope sold on Ebay last month. It is similar. It was described as a Simmone.  I believe the seller said it was made in California.
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Reply #4 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 10:14am
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Kurt_701 wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:44am:
This scope sold on Ebay last month. It is similar. It was described as a Simmone.  I believe the seller said it was made in California.
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I've heard that name--pretty scarce, I think.  Wonder if it was also unmarked.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 10:38am
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Rummaging through my thick folder of miscellaneous "scope stuff," I found this note I made years ago:

"DeSemmone--Navy optician stationed San Diego c.1950, made app. 50 scopes, steel tubes, alum. bells, also 10x30 variable."

Don't remember source of this info, & can't attest to its veracity.  You scored a rare one, Frank.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 11:46am
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I've never seen a scope like that Frank! It looks to have been professionally built, and whoever built it was obviously skilled. I think you got a keeper, and I hope someone can nail it down as to maker!
  

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Reply #7 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 4:10pm
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Kurt_701 wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:44am:
This scope sold on Ebay last month. It is similar. It was described as a Simmone.  I believe the seller said it was made in California.
Kurt


Kurt, do you still have the link to the Ebay scope?

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Reply #8 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 4:16pm
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RedSetter,
I'm trying to find a affordable copy but, I found another book that he wrote for less, it's:

Binoculars, telescopes and telescopic sights;: How they work, how to select them, and how to design and build your own.

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Reply #9 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 5:07pm
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frnkeore wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 4:16pm:
RedSetter,
I'm trying to find a affordable copy but, I found another book that he wrote for less, it's:

Binoculars, telescopes and telescopic sights;: How they work, how to select them, and how to design and build your own.

Thank you,

Frank


Just checked prices on ABE--though it's probably a fairly scarce book, it's surprising demand would be great enough to jack prices up that high.  (Another by-product of the sniper-scope insanity?)

This fellow De Semmone, or whatever his name is, evidently kept a low profile--no mention of him in Rifleman indexes 1950-75.  (Now if he was getting his lenses from the Navy warehouse, he probably HAD to keep a low profile!)
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 6:37pm
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I think this will take you to the closed auction. As I understand it. the scope was variabile in magnification from 10x-30. The parallex functions similar to a Fecker.
It was nicely made and sold for $1500+. 
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The scope is a subject on this forum also. Here it was referred to as an "El Monte" type scope.  If I remember correctly the city of El Monte was near Los Angeles.
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Reply #11 - Mar 12th, 2014 at 5:26pm
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Thank you very much, Redsetter, Kurt and Blindeye, who sent me a PM.

Redsetter has been a extremely good source to me regarding scopes, these last few months and I truly appreciate his help.

The Desimones scope looks to different to have made mine. The only thing thats the same is the wider knurling on the adjustment. But, I love the price it went for Smiley Maybe I should add a variable adjustment to mine Wink

Again, thanks to all,

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Reply #12 - Mar 12th, 2014 at 5:40pm
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frnkeore wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 5:26pm:
The Desimones scope looks to different to have made mine. The only thing thats the same is the wider knurling on the adjustment.
Frank



I wouldn't be too sure--he (D.L. Semone may be the correct name) was making these things one at a time, so there's no reason to think he couldn't have changed things around from time to time.  Still don't understand why he didn't put his name on them.

Can't held wondering if his mechanical inspiration may actually have been more Arthur Hubalek than Fecker, because Hubalek also produced a variable power that resembles the one that sold on ebay.
  
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