Here's one opinion 

Joe's 1 1/2 minute per shot is a good example.  Our local Schuetzen matches go hot on the hour cease fire about 10 minutes. In practical terms it's 45 minutes of shooting time in a relay. Breech best I can do is two targets in a relay. This with time taken for sighters etc.   Can't start until legal range time at 9 so it's 3 relays before lunch. After better not to get into your target right away so the first relay after is on sighters.  3 more until range shuts down at 5. Probably going to give the last relay to the King target. Point of all this is breech seating you have to push to get a 100 shot Hudson match in one days shooting.

Take longer, next day ? How many times have I had a significant condition change morning to afternoon or one day to the next. When it's right thing to do, shoot, when it's not better to sit it out.   

Rim fire Hudson match same range rules, same rifle with switched barrel. I get a Rim Fire Hudson in less than one day easy. This with a shooter from offhand Silhouette background were 5 shots in 2 1/2 minutes is the rule.  Even 30 second shots condition change, put the gun down and wait it out.  30 seconds a shot is plenty of time to get a good one off, taking longer does not make a better strike.  Half a minute per shot x 100 shots That's only 50 minutes.  No need to do it in 50 minutes but 3 or 4 x 45 minute relays is all you need to shoot fixed Hudson matches. No need to run them straight but it's a good thing to pick your relays for conditon

I went to breech offhand route when first shooting Schuetzen. It's gets another  half minute of angle out of my rifles, that's not making any score difference. Not the route for me and good offhand scores. Lack of off shots makes the match, better to use the time shooting not loading. Like the tradition and romance of breech seating, most of the time it's not the way to win offhand matches.

Boats
 

boats wrote on Feb 24^th, 2014 at 2:30pm:

There's some sound logic there, as Pope himself opined that a great score is the absence of bad shots.

I see fellow position high power shooters "chasing" 1/4-minute loads, when it is the best offhand SHOOTER that wins the matches.

That said, Paul says that throating my CPA 38-55 won't affect my fixed ammo capability, so I may have it throated anyway. Even if just to experiment w/ BS'ing.

Well it's a choice and every competitor makes his mind up best way to handle it.

My targets analyzed after a match always show more points lost with off shots than group size. Over holding or distractions mostly.  To the point all I keep track of in my log book is final score and number of off shots. Minimize those I have a good score.

Guys that put every one in the center no doubt need that extra minute of angle to seperate from the other dead center holders. Most shooters will shoot higher scores by not making errors.

Boats

Interesting,   "You couldn't load 100 cartridges with a modern loading tool" 
It sounds to me though like he might be comparing single-case breech-muzzle loading at the shooting bench during the match, with reloading an individual fixed round or breech-seated case 100 times.  

it seems a bit confusing to me    maybe I'm missing something.

I think the biggest point is the difference between individual's learned and practiced skill levels. 
I suspect that at my current level of offhand skill.  (Trying desperately to break the 1900/2000 barrier with my 22 rfs)  that I need to spend as much of my shooting minutes on aiming, trigger, and follow through as possible. 
When I'm fighting to keep my 10 shots on the paper; let alone in the rings, and can only dream of keeping 10 them in the small red; the difference between a 1 MOA group potential load and that of a 1.5 MOA load is pretty hard for me to see.  It might be a confidence builder, but I genuinely think that, for me at least at the present time, more time spent actually shooting will be of the most benefit.

Boats your 45 minute relays might be a little short of the norm. In reviewing the rule book I can't seem to find any mention of the time allotted for a single relay? I might be wrong but I thought it to be 60 minutes? One would think if records are on the line the time allotted per relay should in all fairness be the same for those who might be on that mission. This would also hold true for those wishing to improve their local match scores.

JLouis

I may be wrong,  but I'm not sure the rules specify the relay length. I think its a case of "local custom".  There can be a bunch of variables that impact relay length.  I'm pretty sure that the rules are kept non-specific to allow for that.
On the 200 yd EG range we set the timer for a 45 min shooting period.  At 45 min the buzzer goes off, the acting range officer calls the relay ended, "hot ones" etc, and the red light goes on.  We start the next relay when all targets are pulled/posted and everyone is back behind the line.  We usually average about 15 min for the transition so most of our relays run about an hour or less overall. 
I imagine if we were shooting at 100 yards the transition time might be less.
We usually run 10 relays a day, though sometimes we knock of early if everyone is done shooting for the day.

We also use the tractor pulled "geezer-wagon" which may help speed things up if everyone was walking down and back.  As the day wears on some of us who walk seem to take longer to get down there and back too.
We also have 50 benches that can be almost filled at times at the main 2 events (Spring and Fall matches).  During the busier events things seem to take a little longer as well simply due to the number of guys involved in the process.

At my lack-of-skill-level I can usually shoot 4 10 shot Mini-Hudson 100 yard targets in a relay without difficulty.  Some of the guys can shoot more if there is a vacant backer next to theirs.--with winning scores.  But that is with fixed-of-course 22 rimfire. 
It'll be "interesting" to see how it works out once I start shooting center-fire@200.  When I have shot a 200 yd rimfire offhand I find that it takes me longer---maybe because of the range I'm just taking more time----and its taking more time to spot 22 shots at that range

Boats I love this sport dearly but I have never seen another competitive shooting sport with such unclear and overly relaxed rules and simply leaving eveything up to the discretion of the Schuetzen Meister. As a matter of fact I can't think of any sport that does not have clearly defined timelines
with maybe trap, skeet and sporting clays being the exception? 

JLouis

Its true relaxed is a good thing, I shoot some Side x Side Shotgun Sporting clays. Relaxed format with old Shotguns. Sometimes shoot registered regular sporting clays with a modern gun and it's a whole different level of tension but strangely not competition. Good shooter can hit the birds whatever he shoots. Some of the best SxS shooters are some of the best O/U and Automatic gun shooters.  And the top guys are relaxed and congenial during events. 

Rifle Silhouette at the state or national level is fairly relaxed while competitors try hard to do as well as they can same time. Club level we have guys that like to see the critters fall and don't worry about score. Silhouette we do have a good national level set of rules and procedures, saves a lot of back and forth match day. Go back to the rule book if any questions

However the reason to shoot competitively is competition and one of the things about Schuetzen is you can figure it out for  yourself with few rules to worry about.  That’s a good thing and am glad guys breech seat at the firing line, while I have the flexibility to do it any way best for me. 

Boats