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Reply #15 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 4:19pm
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44 1/2 and a 0   I'll send a photo shhortly
  
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Reply #16 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:24pm
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Here is a picture of the front of the receiver.
  
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Reply #17 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 5:29pm
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Yes, it is a single trigger, I'm not sure what you mean by single set. The trigger is fantastic, about 2 lbs and breaks like glass,  I'm really impressed.
  
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Re: Values of the old single shots?
Reply #18 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 6:05pm
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Bob,

If my eyes aren't playing tricks on me (which is possible), I think that if you look closely at the back of the trigger about level with the tang surface, you'll find the head of an adjustment screw that goes forward and upward at an angle through the trigger.
Also, the rear of the trigger cutout in the lower tang appears to have a small additional radius cut (instead of the standard square cut all the way across left to right) to make it easier to access the set-trigger trigger adjusting screw.
You can use the single-set trigger like a standard trigger, but to use the single-set feature, you push the bottom rear of trigger forward to set it and then you should (if all parts are in good shape, and it's adjusted and functioning properly) be able to obtain a lighter trigger pull let-off.
If you do have the single-set trigger installed in your rifle, it is a fairly rare optional feature, which would increase the rifle's value.

  
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Reply #19 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 7:27pm
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Wow, it is the single set and it does work! You guys and this site are a wonderful wealth of knowledge! I'm amazed at what I have learned in the past few days. I'm grateful, and hope I can be this much help to others!
  
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Reply #20 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 7:39pm
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Bob,

Glad to hear it, and congratulations on having a working rare special order feature in your 44 1/2!
Now you'll be able to pass on the info after the rest of us old farts are long gone.
       Smiley

  
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Reply #21 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 8:08pm
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Thank you BP, you're quite the guy.  Smiley 
  
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Reply #22 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 8:17pm
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Beautiful rifle. I have been on this site for years and am continually learning new things. The total amount of knowledge available here is amazing and everyone is willing to share and help newcomers.The single set trigger I am well aware of but have never actually seen one. I have a couple of double set triggers. Good find.
  
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Re: Values of the old single shots?
Reply #23 - Feb 22nd, 2014 at 8:46pm
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BP, Great eye for detail!  That little divot in the back of the trigger notch is distinctive once you know it's there, but it took knowing just what to look for to see it.

Bob, that little feature adds $300 to $500 to the value easily, and makes it a much more desirable rifle.

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Reply #24 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 8:21am
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Thank you all for the help, I've had nothing but informative answers and suggestions from everyone here. From making cartridges for this old rifle to estimating its value. I've learned so much not just about what I've asked, but about the little details that only someone with many years of experience would have.  I've also learned that there are still some really, really nice people still willing to share the knowledge they've spent years gathering. You can read all of the books you want, still ain't touching this forum and the members! You guys are all great, I'm hooked!
  
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Re: Values of the old single shots?
Reply #25 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:59am
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About the numbers on the face of the action:  Stevens offered their Ideal rifle with the 44 action in several models, designated by numbers, and the customer could order just about any combination of extras.  Stevens kept track of all that by marking the front of the action.

The basic model, no frills, was the 44.  As the number of extras increased, the number increased.  Models 45 and 47 are fairly common, with 47 having a pistol grip stock and a loop lever. With number 49 and up to 54, they were specialized target rifles. 

I have a Model 47 (44 action) stamped with 47 and EX.  It has a heavier than normal barrel and an odd lever. 

I have not seen enough 44 1/2s to know if the practice continued, but I think it did.  The 44 1/2 stamp indicated the basic rifle, but with the 44 1/2 action.  I would have expected some other mark indicating the single set trigger.

We discussed the 0 mark some time back.  It appears on most rifles, but no one seems to know what it means.
  
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Re: Values of the old single shots?
Reply #26 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 2:45pm
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Waterman,
I'm just learning about these rifles, the serial number on the barrel matches the action but there is a number 2 on the barel under the forend? Any info would be helpful. Are there other places with numbers or stamps I should be looking at?

Thanks again all of you!

Bob
  
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Re: Values of the old single shots?
Reply #27 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 5:05pm
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2 should indicate the barrel weight. #2 was the standard weight barrel if memory serves me right.
  
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Reply #28 - Feb 23rd, 2014 at 11:16pm
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Thank you Slumlord. I was thinking it might have to do with weight. 
  
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Re: Values of the old single shots?
Reply #29 - Feb 25th, 2014 at 11:56am
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The rear sight is not a typical windage adjustable, but has the optional (and less frequently seen) windage aperture. A pretty unusual option, and a nice addition to a collector gun. The single set triggers Stevens are very rare! Most got the optional double set triggers, so your gun is pretty unusual! It's a standard 44.5 model, but the optional trigger, tang sight with aperture, and the condition, all add up to a pretty collectable gun. Around my area it would go closer to $1700-$1900 range.
  
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