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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1370 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	odd ball Hepburn Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 7:39pm	Print Post
	(You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) came across this, is it really a #3 ? a knock off or a did someone get a bit of history?

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2944 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #1 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	Looks real with some odd-ball wood, trigger guard and hammer. If I see it correctly, the hammer has been lightened by grinding off both sides. From where the side-lever sits when the block is up it has something bent or torqued on the mechanism. Not a big deal to fix. The $895 BIN price that it sold for is probably reasonable or a bit high. Not making any more originals.

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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1370 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #2 - Feb 2^nd, 2014 at 8:42pm	Print Post
	Wasn't out there long before someone snatched it. Not really enough photos. (No stampings, no real info) I didn't see it before it was gone. Wondered if it was some sort of early prototype or if Harlow had been at work.

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #3 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 8:34am	Print Post
	"schützen buttplate"??? "Bullet ding from gunfight". Maybe not Harlow, but can I smell PT Barnum's elephants. and what was the hole, or whatever, on the bottom flat at the muzzle fore---screw on muzzle rest maybe. AS I recall that prototype of Dick Binger has a longer lower (JMHO) more graceful side lever.

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Old-Win Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1854 Location: Minnesota Joined: Nov 24^th, 2005	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #4 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 10:08am	Print Post
	It's definately not a Hepburn as we know them. Prototype?? Maybe! Look at the picture of the top view of the hammer and breechblock. The hammer is very narrow while the breechblock seems quite wide.Trigger is pinned in a different spot than the Hepburns and the extractor looks to be on the right instead of the left. It looks to cobby to have been made by Remington. And if that's a bullet hit on the stock from a gunfight, I'll bet CSI could find some blood with DNA and trace it back to the original dead owner.
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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18328 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #5 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 10:57am	Print Post
	I don't believe it is or ever was a Remington Hepburn. More likely a individual's copy of a Hepburn done at home, and from the looks of it, with fairly rudimentary tools. Missing all the contours, pins, screws, etc. of a real Hepburn, and just a very crude copy. Of course if it was one of LL Hepburn's prototypes, I seriously doubt it would have been that crude considering he worked for Remington, and had access to all their facility when building the prototype.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #6 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	If I view it as if the lever is absent, it seems to remind me more of one of the large frame H&A shotguns rather than a Hepburn, considering the action profile, hammer profile, narrow hammer width and narrow hammer slot in the frame. Would have expected to see a picture of the E Rem and Sons roll mark on the barrel but no picture showing such was provided. My 2 cents.

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 844 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #7 - Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 10:03pm	Print Post
	It's a Frankenburn......


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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1370 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #8 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 7:24am	Print Post
	BP - I think you are right, I saw a H&A at the world's foremost outfitters yesterday, It looked like that "Hepburn" on GB.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12595 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #9 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:23am	Print Post
	.22Hepburn wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 10:03pm: It's a Frankenburn......

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12595 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #10 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 8:26am	Print Post
	At first I thought it was a Cole. It's a Frankenburn,............. Joe.

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graduated peep Ex Member	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #11 - Feb 4^th, 2014 at 9:57am	Print Post
	BP wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2014 at 2:01pm: If I view it as if the lever is absent, it seems to remind me more of one of the large frame H&A shotguns rather than a Hepburn, considering the action profile, hammer profile, narrow hammer width and narrow hammer slot in the frame. Would have expected to see a picture of the E Rem and Sons roll mark on the barrel but no picture showing such was provided. My 2 cents. Wanted to buy : large frame H&A shotguns for conversions to Fankenburns


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oughtsix Global Moderator ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1370 Location: Columbus Joined: May 31^st, 2009	Re: odd ball Hepburn It's back ! Reply #12 - Feb 7^th, 2014 at 7:43pm	Print Post
	(You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) in case you want a second chance. not my dog. just a curiosity.

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.22Hepburn Oldtimer Offline Posts: 844 Location: Pennsylvania Joined: Feb 18^th, 2008	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #13 - Feb 8^th, 2014 at 7:43am	Print Post
	Look at it this way, for possibly $485 you could have the ultimate wallhanger - no one could ever guess what it is and it might well will any "ugliest gun" contest. You could have a plaque made up for it that says it is a very rare example of a Frankenburn and all your gun collecting buddies could come over and admire it and wish they too could own one......


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: odd ball Hepburn Reply #14 - Feb 8^th, 2014 at 1:32pm	Print Post
	Or, when your buddies come over to examine your purchase, they can start thinking to themselves "WOW, the next time he pulls out the cheap booze and gets into the gun buying mood, I can probably get rid of that..."

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