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Do you do a lot of case trimming?
Jan 25th, 2014 at 1:43pm
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Hey guys,

If you do a lot of case trimming, this looks like the way to go.  I’ve been using a Hornady hand-crank trimmer but seriously considering the RDZ unit.
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Re: Do you do a lot of case trimming?
Reply #1 - Jan 25th, 2014 at 2:31pm
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Wayne - not sure what "a lot" is, but for high power, who need to trim more than we generally do, most folks I shoot with either use a Gracey (like me) or a Giraud (made in TX). Size and clean the brass and then stick it in the machine for 3-sec and done. For our oldie-but-goodie cases, the 30-40 cases I may need to trim in a year (firing ~2500rds or 10-loadings per case, on average) have found the Forster hand-crank trimmer with carbide cutter to be just the ticket. Chamfer on the RCBS case-prep center and done.
  

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Re: Do you do a lot of case trimming?
Reply #2 - Jan 25th, 2014 at 2:31pm
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That's a very nice setup. As much as I think I'd prefer it over my Lyman powered by my drill motor, I probably wont be spending $170 anytime soon for it.
  

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Re: Do you do a lot of case trimming?
Reply #3 - Jan 25th, 2014 at 4:30pm
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Glenn,

"A lot" is certainly not very definitive and BPCR shooters generally don't do a lot of trimming after initially setting up their brass, so, at $170 + shipping, many could not justify the expense over a hand-crank unit.  But I'm a sucker, to a point, for reloading "toys", especially those that speed up the process.

I am aware of the Gracey and Giraud units, but if memory serves me correctly, those are in the $300+ to $400+ range new respectively.  I imagine used ones can be found for less, but that's a good bit of change for the single-shot shooter.  It's also my impression that they are somewhat time consuming to change the setup for several different cases.

Probably the cheapest and relatively fast is the Lee trimmers if used in an electric drill, but they are not adjustable.

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Reply #4 - Jan 25th, 2014 at 4:51pm
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Here's my setup with a WILSON case trimmer (25$ on ebay second hand).

I HIGHLY recommend the ease of using a drill press.

  

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Reply #5 - Jan 25th, 2014 at 4:54pm
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Come to think of it the drill press was $25 at a yard sale.  Add in a couple of yard sale clamps for $1 each and a Wilson shell holder for each caliber.

Might want to add a clamp.  My thumb gets tired holding the shell  holder in place.

  

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Reply #6 - Jan 25th, 2014 at 5:29pm
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Like Cat I like to turn the case chucked up.

Volume work I chuck them in the Lathe, Trim with a hand held Lee tool, then inside chamfer outside de-burr while it's turning quick wipe with some emery paper.  4 jobs one chucking. Ran about a Thousand 32/20's and 38/40's that way last winter

Low volume for single shots use a hand cranked machine, or more accurate two hand cranked machines since the Redding I use for 32/40 and 38/55 won't accept 45/70 head size collet won't open large enough, Use a Lyman hand crank for my 40/65's

I do trim on a regular basis. 38/55's just trimmed a lot of 360 after 20 years, be another 20 before they need it again

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Re: Do you do a lot of case trimming?
Reply #7 - Jan 25th, 2014 at 6:41pm
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Cat_Whisperer wrote on Jan 25th, 2014 at 4:54pm:
My thumb gets tired holding the shell  holder in place.

Think Brownells sells a 'shark-fin' holder that works reasonably well for the Wilson. That said, I had the Wilson and am one of those who prefers the Forster due to the case-holder system.
  

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Reply #8 - Jan 26th, 2014 at 10:15am
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The more bottleneck and the higher the pressure the more trimming!

I have umpteen 12.7x44R Swedish Remington that has more than 50+ loads on them and i have yet to trim one.

On the other hand i have several high power loads (30-06, 6.5x55 and so forth) that needs trimming every other loading.

I lean towards the Lee system!
I chuck the case in a holder i put in a cordless drill.
Step 1) do the actual trimming against a Lee trimmer pilot held in a block.
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Re: Do you do a lot of case trimming?
Reply #9 - Jan 26th, 2014 at 11:06am
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Chickenthief wrote on Jan 26th, 2014 at 10:15am:
On the other hand i have several high power loads (30-06, 6.5x55 and so forth) that needs trimming every other loading.

FYI, this season I changed my 223/308 high power dies to the RCBS 'X' die and so far I'm at twice the case life w/ zero trimming.

The M1A is notoriously hard on brass, but Larry Gibson has recorded up to 15-shots from the cases without trimming, using Nat Match 308 loads - all with the X die. However, caliber selection is limited Sad ...
  

All of my single shots shoot one tiny ragged hole with cast bullets ... it's just the following shots that tend to open up my groups Wink ...
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