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38-55 Full Member Offline Posts: 126 Location: central pa Joined: Jul 18^th, 2004	Hodgdon Lil Gun Jan 24^th, 2014 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	Has anyone had any pressure issues with Lil Gun powder? Use it in a 22 Hornet, can't come close to some suggested loads. I shoot mainly cast bullets with 9 grs of powder, small pistol primer. When using jacketed bullets I have flattened and enlarged primer pockets with 40 gr bullet, small rifle primer. However it is very accurate.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11464 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #1 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 1:36pm	Print Post
	I use it in 32-40 Krag, (30-40 Krag straight taper case). 12 gr under a 200 gr lead bullet. 15 1/2 gr under a 170 gr bullet. Have used it in 32/40 B&M AKA Winchester. Used 11 gr under a 200 gr lead bullet. Never a pressure problem. When I have pressure problems, back off on the powder charge. Joe.

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Goatwhiskers Full Member Offline Posts: 101 Location: Batchelor, La. Joined: Oct 27^th, 2011	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #2 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 2:55pm	Print Post
	IMHO you need to back off, sounds like you're kinda pushing things. I will say that in my two Hornets I just didn't have good accuracy using any of the conventional powders such as Lil'Gun or 4227. Finally tried A1680, 13-13.5gr gives me less than 1/4" groups in both guns. Haven't chrono'ed this yet. GW

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #3 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 3:22pm	Print Post
	300MP is a good Hornet Powder, provides more velocity with less pressure.

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38-55 Full Member Offline Posts: 126 Location: central pa Joined: Jul 18^th, 2004	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #4 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 4:29pm	Print Post
	Hodgdon loading manual. 22 Hornet 40 gr bullet, 12-13 grs. Lil Gun. Maybe in theirs but not mine. Have not had this happen with other powders in Hornet.


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #5 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 4:39pm	Print Post
	there is more to pressure indications than just the powder charge. I've had fallen and blown primers with safe loads, well under listed medium safe loads one case with BN bullets and the brass was too thick in the neck. another where there were problems with an enlarged FP hole combined with pistol primers with a softer alloy for the cup. bunch of stuff to consider. OK guys Obviously my caffeine/blood ratio was waaaay too low when I typed that reply. S/B "BN (bottle neck) case and jacketed bullets". (I had a real "learning experience" making 6.5 redding cases out of mil spec 308 brass. Thank god Remington factory-ized that cartridge by renaming it the 260 Remington.) Dunno what the heck I was intending to say with "fallen" might have been starting to say "failed" then partially re edited it and then "auto-correct" did it's weirdness.
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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11464 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #6 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 6:47pm	Print Post
	BN bullets? What are? Joe

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11464 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #7 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	Fallen primers? What are that too? Joe. PS, I know I'm going to look so dum.

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CajunRebel Oldtimer Offline Posts: 691 Location: Alexandria, VA Joined: Nov 18^th, 2007	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #8 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	C.Sharps Low-Wall with MVS A-5 scope, Rem. brass, CCI SPP, Hornady 40gr V-max, 13.0 grs Lil-Gun. 100 yds - 1/2" because I ain't any better. No issues.


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Goatwhiskers Full Member Offline Posts: 101 Location: Batchelor, La. Joined: Oct 27^th, 2011	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #9 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 10:41pm	Print Post
	No knowledge here, but Lil'Gun may be one of those powders that doesn't take too well to reduced charges. Just a thought. GW

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11464 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #10 - Jan 24^th, 2014 at 11:04pm	Print Post
	Okay, boron nitrided, whatever that is. That just leaves fallen primers. Joe.

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Kermit1945 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 980 Location: In Flux Joined: Aug 31^st, 2011	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #11 - Jan 25^th, 2014 at 11:00am	Print Post
	It happens every time I bump them off the edge of my bench. I hate picking them up.

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JS47 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1265 Location: Arizona Joined: Oct 12^th, 2012	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #12 - Jan 26^th, 2014 at 9:17pm	Print Post
	I've been using Li'l gun and the Sierra 45 gr. Hornet bullet in my Ruger #3 for years with no problems and good accuracy, around an inch at 100 yds which as good as I can do with this configuration of rifle. I chambered the barrel with a Clymer reamer with a throat too long for the bullet which is maybe why I've not encountered any pressure problems. Can't seat the bullet out near the rifling or I get a poor powder burn and wild velocity spreads. Velocity is 2960 and it's bad news for coyotes out to 150 yds. I've posted (hopefully!) a photo of the shooting lane to the coyote crossing and one of the rifle and the victim.


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #13 - Jan 27^th, 2014 at 7:44am	Print Post
	I really like your treatment of that #3. Its a vast improvement on the abyssmally ugly factory stock. With a cross-keyed forend. it'd almost look like one of those early Hawken-styled single shots

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11464 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Hodgdon Lil Gun Reply #14 - Jan 27^th, 2014 at 12:45pm	Print Post
	While trying to de-babble your post found this. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Joe.

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