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Jan 20th, 2014 at 10:17am
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A good friend sent me this and I thought I'd share it. He started with a block of scrap maple to aid loading the coned cartridges, with each bullet lubed in the grooves, then loaded with just under 40-grns FFg. He put a .44-cal felt cushion wad (Wonder Wad) over the powder before hand-seating the bullets.

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My local 'toy' store had this Burnside and I checked it out for him. Al matching s/n 4th model in excellent shape and he bought it for a good $600-$800 less than what it would bring at a show or other shop. 

This store has more old BP single shots if anyone is looking, like 2 mint Potsdam muskets with sharp engraving and cartouches. There's also that mint RB #2 for $400!
  

All of my single shots shoot one tiny ragged hole with cast bullets ... it's just the following shots that tend to open up my groups Wink ...
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Reply #1 - Jan 20th, 2014 at 8:07pm
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That's some really strange looking Brass!

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Reply #2 - Jan 20th, 2014 at 8:50pm
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Civil War era breech-loading carbines are a real puzzle-palace of American ingenuity.  I think every town crank north or south o the M/D and a fair number on the sunny side of it cranked out a version to (piously) end the bloodshed, and make big bucks in the project.    Some were good and survived. at least for a while for a while (during the 1st half to 2/3 or the war the Union and to a slightly lesser extent the Confederacy were desperately short on arms of every sort) Some were little more that tool-room one-offs.  Somewhere I have a book on US martial arms and pistols I bought as a teen-age kid at a library de-accession book sale.  the section on the BL carbines the government actually contracted for always left me scratching my head in wonder and amazement.
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Reply #3 - Jan 20th, 2014 at 11:07pm
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A Burnside with a half-dozen cases, mold, and a home-made seater sold at our local gun show last year.  I was tempted, since it went for about $1,000 but I remained sober.

Had fun with a Smith carbine years ago, used neoprene tubeing, a Dixie mold, and about 35 grains of Dupont ffG and Italian musket caps.  Worked well except for cleaning.

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Reply #4 - Jan 21st, 2014 at 4:50am
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That's really nice.
  

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Reply #5 - Jan 23rd, 2014 at 11:11am
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The shooters in the North-South Skirmish Association love to play with these old cartridges and rifles.  Cheesy
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Reply #6 - Jan 26th, 2014 at 8:03pm
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My understanding is that COLT had a patent on the straight wall case.......so this was one way around it.

Neat stuff right there!
  

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Reply #7 - Feb 2nd, 2014 at 7:37pm
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Actually the Burnside predates by several years any fixed ammo guns by Colt. And there were straight cases in several other outside primed breechloading carbines of the CW era.  Just Burnside's variation on easy loading and extraction.  Gummint was so desperate for arms, and breechloaders were so new on the military landscape that they bought MANY variations on breechloaders during the war.  The war became a giant test laboratory for small arms and artillery development, watched by military scientists around the world.  Too bad so many of the "test subjects" had to give their lives in the 5-year "experiment"

The Burnside is one of only a couple firearms that contains platinum in it's construction.  Burnside's patent claims an "inoxidizable bushing " in the breechblock which is the silver ring around the plunger in the rear half of the breechblock, and the silver flash channel. (The other is the 1853 slant breech Sharps, which contains a platinum ring in the face of the breechblock to resist gas cutting.  Didn't work all that well, and they moved on to the Lawrence patent gas seal plate in later versions)
  

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