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Stractor Junior Member Offline Posts: 94 Location: New Jersey Joined: Jan 3^rd, 2010	Diopter Sight Dec 27^th, 2013 at 3:17pm	Print Post
	Hi All A question about the magnifier that screws into the Schuetzen diopter. I have one and was wondering how it was used in practice? What was it focused on, the target or the front sight. The other question is has anyone tried to make one or has made one? It looks to be a very simple sight to make. I could probably turn one in an hour. My problem is the lenses. They appear to be two Plano-convex lenses of 5mm and about 10 mm in diameter with the convex side pointing front (both in the same direction). Lenses like these seem to be readily available. The only problem is the focal length and also I can't find any arrangement of both lenses pointing in the same direction, with the exception of a microscope eye piece. If anyone has any ideas??? Thanks Bob Photo borrowed from Biggi. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)[/URL]


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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1013 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #1 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 4:00pm	Print Post
	Here is Bob Jones approach to a Diopter. It is used by Highpower shooters. Gehmann also offers an adjustable diopter. thru such places as Champion Choice ,Champions Shooter Supply, or Ok Weber. I used the Bob Jones for a few years with some success. I generally tried to focus for sharp front aperture and fair target. They are not a cure all. Kurt

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Stractor Junior Member Offline Posts: 94 Location: New Jersey Joined: Jan 3^rd, 2010	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #2 - Dec 27^th, 2013 at 4:25pm	Print Post
	Kurt I had looked at those and they are rather expensive. I want to make one that looked original and worked the same or better.


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feuerbixler Oldtimer Offline Posts: 791 Location: Munich / Bavaria Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2010	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #3 - Dec 28^th, 2013 at 12:32am	Print Post
	Those small diopter-sights are also in Germany very rare. They are mounted into a female thread in the diopter, ahead the disc. Helps a lot when the eyesight fades a bit away. But one has to pay 150 Euros (200 US$) and more for a good one with perfect lenses. Biggi.
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	Questions in old German target rifles??? Hhhmm, maybe I can help... ...meanwhile more than 500 quality posts from Bavaria!
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Stractor Junior Member Offline Posts: 94 Location: New Jersey Joined: Jan 3^rd, 2010	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #4 - Dec 28^th, 2013 at 12:56am	Print Post
	Thanks Biggi The lenses on the one I have are in great condition and it screws into a "Perfekt" Diopter that I have. I have never seen one for sale.


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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3874 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #5 - Dec 28^th, 2013 at 8:15am	Print Post
	My solution, since I wear glasses, is to have a pair of glasses with the focal distance is set to 4 or 5 feet. It works great for everyday use inside, ok for driving (not at night) since the iris closes down a bit in bright light. On the range - the front sight IS in clear focus. The glasses work on EVERY gun I own.

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #6 - Dec 28^th, 2013 at 12:34pm	Print Post
	CW, may give that a try, I'm due for a personal optical upgrade anyway. Unfortunately I was damn-near born with glasses. BUT I have one of those little critters on one of my Euro-22 schuetzens. when I tried it and got it adjusted it was an EUREKA!!!!!! moment for me. For the first time in many many years I could actually SEE and use Iron sights. I just wish I could bush and adapt or drillout and retap some of my other diopters to accept it. I'd LOVE to be able to shoot offhand center fire Irons for the first time in my life.

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Stractor Junior Member Offline Posts: 94 Location: New Jersey Joined: Jan 3^rd, 2010	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #7 - Dec 28^th, 2013 at 1:34pm	Print Post
	Quote: I just wish I could bush and adapt or drillout and retap some of my other diopters to accept it. The thread on the little magnifier is a is Very close or is a standard metric thread of M7 x 0.50 ( or at least mine is ). This tap will slightly chase the thread in an original diopter threaded for the magnifier. Allowing for the years when the thread was originally made and today's modern tooling the threads could be viewed as the same.


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #8 - Dec 28^th, 2013 at 10:22pm	Print Post
	Where can one find taps, dies, and clearance drills in those sizes? I might possibly be able to drill out a couple of my diopter discs and rethread, but its going to take a lot of painstaking measurement and thought before I try it.

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Stractor Junior Member Offline Posts: 94 Location: New Jersey Joined: Jan 3^rd, 2010	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #9 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 1:17am	Print Post
	I usually get them from Victor Machinery Exchange in NYC but that one is out of stock -However Enco has them---- (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)


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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Diopter Sight Reply #10 - Dec 29^th, 2013 at 10:16am	Print Post
	thank you, info is very much appreciated

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