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Reply #45 - Dec 24th, 2013 at 1:51pm
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Joe Western,

Only thing I do to SPG lube is cut it with some sheep stick paint. Mine comes out a nice fuschia color. Anything to get away from that pus colored saffron hue of SPG.

On the border with no humidity and high temps I've found that the stickier the lube is, the better. And, the more recently applied to bullets, the better. Must have something to do with residual magnetism or something.

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Reply #46 - Dec 24th, 2013 at 2:16pm
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When i relube/reuse the lube with fresh bullets i just put it in the oven and set it to 75-80degC~167-176degF.
  
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Reply #47 - Dec 24th, 2013 at 4:47pm
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For my part, I would love to see a side by side test using SPG, Javalina Schuetzen and that Canadian lube. Done in both hot and cold conditions. It could be very enlighting. Personally, I doubt that there would be a measurable difference overall but, one might perform better under hot and one under cold conditions. I would call those brands the top three that you can purchase.

I would be interesting as, they all seem to do well Smiley

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Reply #48 - Dec 25th, 2013 at 12:36pm
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Ya know, I was wrong. I looked on the map and it's not Bugtussle it's Bugscuffle. It's just down the road from Bell Buckle.
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Reply #49 - Dec 25th, 2013 at 12:43pm
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Joe Western,

Only thing I do to SPG lube is cut it with some sheep stick paint. Mine comes out a nice fuschia color. Anything to get away from that pus colored saffron hue of SPG.

On the border with no humidity and high temps I've found that the stickier the lube is, the better. And, the more recently applied to bullets, the better. Must have something to do with residual magnetism or something.

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Hey kid! Glad to hear from you.

I like the smell of SPG. Olive oil doesn't change that. Sometimes when Steve asks what I'm using for lube, I tell him SPG. Especially when I'm not in the mood for a kick in the slats.  The very best lube I ever used for BP loads in hot weather was Taurak. Not available now. Went the way of steam cylinder oil.  By the way, if there is anyone so bold as to attempt to make bullet lube at home, steam cylinder oil is still being made in Kentucky. Called "green velvet".

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Reply #50 - Dec 25th, 2013 at 1:15pm
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frnkeore wrote on Dec 24th, 2013 at 4:47pm:
For my part, I would love to see a side by side test using SPG, Javalina Schuetzen and that Canadian lube. Done in both hot and cold conditions. It could be very enlighting. Personally, I doubt that there would be a measurable difference overall but, one might perform better under hot and one under cold conditions. I would call those brands the top three that you can purchase.

I would be interesting as, they all seem to do well Smiley

Frank

And John Boy's lube.

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Reply #51 - Dec 26th, 2013 at 3:45am
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rafter3c wrote on Dec 25th, 2013 at 1:11pm:
Joe,
  I was wondering if someone would talk about taurak. I took a chance and purchased a 50lb box of taurak back in the early 80's with another shooter. 
  One day I would like to get Steve's thoughts on taurak.  Ken


How did it work for you, Ken?

I believe Taurak was made by Texaco. Was used for rail lubrication. Would hold it's viscosity in cold or hot weather. Wonder what the railroad uses now? Must have the same performance. Resist melting off in hot weather or chipping off in cold weather.

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Reply #52 - Dec 26th, 2013 at 7:30am
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Steve Garbe wrote on Dec 24th, 2013 at 1:47pm:
Gentlemen,
If one is using a lubri-sizer, rather than buy sticks get the bulk blocks. Simply melt them in a double boiler and pour the hot lube into the sizer. It sets up in about 15 minutes and excludes all the trapped air one gets when mashing the sticks down the lubri-sizer barrel. It is also much cheaper than using the sticks.
Steve

Is there any drawback to lubing now for bullets that may not be shot until next fall? What is longest period to time you recommend letting SPG lubed bullets sit around (not loaded into cartridge)?
  

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Reply #53 - Dec 26th, 2013 at 8:10am
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Put your lubed bullets in a freezer.
They thaw out like freshly lubed bullets.
That way they will not dry out or harden.

I pour my bullets in the winter because there is not enough time to cast and lube bullets when you have to go to one competition after another in the summer.
  
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Reply #54 - Dec 26th, 2013 at 1:22pm
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Taurak - a town in Russia.  Could it be that Taurak made by Texaco was ozokerite which can be mined in Russia?  Or possibly Ceresin that is derived from ozokerite by a purifying process
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(You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) (An alternative to beeswax in ointments)

Back in 2010, there was a 15 page thread on Cast Boolits - Lube Test.
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  Bullshop was testing various lubes and stated that ozokerite was an ingredient in his NASA Lube.  I use NASA LUBE exclusively in my reloads of Dan Theodore's Minni Groove Bullets for long range   

Anyway, I have a bag of ozokerite, that one of these days Wink - will substitute the beeswax in the 40:40:(20-beeswax) lube that I use and see how it works.  And also Ceresin (500 grams for 40 bucks!)  Shocked
  
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Reply #55 - Dec 26th, 2013 at 3:58pm
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Was used for rail lubrication. 

It's my understanding taurak was used for drilling when the drill head hit hard rock ect.


I have been told that it was used to lubricate the axial bearing on rail cars.

Three versions but, It did have success as a bullet lube. I would have also used it but, couldn't find it in a small enough quanity to buy, back in the 90's.

No old rail road guys on the forum to ask about it?

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Reply #56 - Dec 26th, 2013 at 4:18pm
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I had some 30 caliber gas checked bullets lubed with SPG well over 10 years ago, rarely shoot 30 cal, in fact sold off my 30 cal molds and all the Springfields but one.  Loaded some for a friend and they shot just fine. Bullets were well stored not too hot not too cold no dust or dirt.

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