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A very late date for a Springfield Trapdoor Rifle.
Dec 14th, 2013 at 9:55pm
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Springfield U.S. Model 1884 Trapdoor Rifle late serial number 561529 near the end of the production of the Trapdoors.

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This particular model of 1884 was also known as “Model 1888 US Trapdoor Rifle” or “Ramrod bayonet Model or Model 1889.

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This was the last model of the Springfield Trapdoor long arms. manufactured between 1889-1893 Serial numbers ran from 500,000 to 565,000- Total 65000 were manufactured.

This particular rifle was manufactured in 1893 and is serial numbered 561529.

Left side of the stock opposite the lock plate Inspectors cartouche SWP (Samuel W. Porter) over 1893(clear)

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Circle cartouche on the underside of pistol grip with a faint “P” in the center.

U.S. on butt plate tang, “33” stamped on  the stock just forward of buttplate tang.

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‘U.S. SPRINGFIELD” on the lock plate.

Left side of the barrel forward of the breech VP over Eagle over P.

Sling U.S. M1887, marked with "Rock Island Arsenal" and inspection stamp "E.H.S." for E.H. Schmitten Leather Goods, Rock Island with ASA marking.
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Re: A very late date for a Springfield Trapdoor Rifle.
Reply #1 - Dec 14th, 2013 at 10:44pm
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M1887 sling markings.

Sling U.S. M1887,marked with "Rock Island Arsenal" and inspection stamp "E.H.S." for E.H.Schmitten Leather Goods, Rock Island.
Also marked "AEA" --perhaps an inspector.

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The 45-70 Springfield…written by Albert J. Frasca and Robert H. Hill…published in 1980.

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Re: A very late date for a Springfield Trapdoor Rifle.
Reply #2 - Dec 15th, 2013 at 6:47am
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Nice Trapdoor. Appreciate the good photos.

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Reply #3 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:21pm
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Erskine S. Allin--some background history.

A photo of E.S. Allin
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His cartouche found on many guns.

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After the Civil War, the War Department wanted a breech-loading rifle.  To be specific, they wanted a breech-loading rifle that would chamber a self-primed, metallic cartridge.  This led to the formation of an Army Board who, in 1865, would host trials of different rifles by makers both foreign and domestic.  The idea of the Master Armorer at the U.S Armory at Springfield, Mr. Erskine S. Allin, was to take the existing Civil War muzzle-loaders, of which there were thousands, and convert them by adding the now well known “trap door” to the receiver.

“Erskine S. Allin was Master Armorer at Springfield Armory from 1853 until his death in 1879. It would be hard to imagine a more exciting and innovative time in the history of arms making. When Allin started his career at the national Armory at Springfield Massachusetts the flintlock represented the state of the art of small arms ignition. The term flintlock is applied to the mechanism of ignition which was introduced at the beginning of the 17th century. The flintlock quickly replaced earlier firearms-ignition technologies, such as the dog-lock, match-lock, and wheel-lock. It continued to be in common use for over two centuries with essentially no changes. Flintlock muskets were the mainstay of Western armies between 1660 and 1840. It was replaced by percussion cap and, later cartridge-based systems in the early-to-mid 19th century, all within the working life of Erskine S. Allin.”
-Professor Emeritus, James B. Whisker,
West Virginia University
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Reply #4 - Dec 16th, 2013 at 6:32pm
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Some years ago I tried to make a deal with a local dealer for the CW Model 1863 Springfield rifle musket shown below.

This was before the Trapdoor period and his Allin's ESA cartouche appears on the gun.

This Model 1863 CW rifle musket was one of the first guns that was converted to Erskine S. Allins' Trapdoors.

I 'unfortunately' was not able to make the deal...but I still have the photos that I took at that time.

ESA cartouche.

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Re: A very late date for a Springfield Trapdoor Rifle.
Reply #5 - Feb 11th, 2014 at 6:00pm
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I'm fortunate to own #561781, in about NRA excellent condition.  Model 1888, produced 1893.  This was the last year of "new" rifle production.  The guns that left the armory in subsequent years were earlier rifles being refurbed, according to Frasca's book.  I agree, it's  great piece of history.  Yours is quite nice also.  Fine camera work, too!   

The  Model 1888 is my favorite of the issue trapdoors, though I have a soft spot for a nice 1868 or 1870 .50-70 also.
  

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