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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Cast bullet alloy prep. Dec 8^th, 2013 at 8:11pm	Print Post
	So I've been iced in for the day and have been blending 20 lbs at time lead, tin and whatever into what is about 20:1. Hmmmm. It would be nice to have ONE blended batch that is uniform. (I'll actually go for two - one with WW and tin and the other with pure lead and tin.) I found an easy to use two piece 'mould' that I can fill twice from my Mag 20 and then refill with the components. Cooling takes just a few minutes fan assisted. SO, I've got what will be 200 lbs in 4.3 lb ingots. I will reblend all that into ONE batch and recast into identifiable ingots for that batch. Why? This gives me the opportunity to clean (again) in the Mag 20 a SMALL amount of alloy. (Large quantities aren't as easy (for me) to get to casting quality.) 200 lbs = 1.4 million grains or 3500 four-hundred grain bullets. Should get me through next weekend's shootin'. Do it again for the other batch and I'll then have enough for a much longer time; and two blends to compare.

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #1 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:12pm	Print Post
	Empty ingot mould. START the timer.

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #2 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:13pm	Print Post
	Full ingot mould (under a minute so far). Frosts over at 1:20.

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #3 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:14pm	Print Post
	HOT ingot out of the mould. NOTE the elapsed time.

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #4 - Dec 8^th, 2013 at 9:15pm	Print Post
	201 lbs of alloy.

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JS47 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1265 Location: Arizona Joined: Oct 12^th, 2012	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #5 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 12:45am	Print Post
	You might already know this but old muffin tins make excellent ingot molds. They're cheap at 2nd hand stores.


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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11462 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #6 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 6:17am	Print Post
	My old shooting pardner used to make up alloy in big bunches like that. Worked good for him. Was always hard to beat. He used one rifle for competition. Thought I was messy. Joe.
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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #7 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 7:12am	Print Post
	JS47 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 12:45am: You might already know this but old muffin tins make excellent ingot molds. They're cheap at 2nd hand stores. Yea. If I have one I have a dozen - works well OUTSIDE when I render raw materials they are in the queue. When I get finished with my unified batches I'll also make a bunch of them.

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #8 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 7:13am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 6:17am: My old shooting pardner used to make up allow in big bunches like that. Worked good for him. Was always hard to beat. He used one rifle for competition. Thought I was messy. Joe. I'm glad I've set a new standard for you to aspire to!

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shovel80 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 896 Location: Sonora,CA Joined: Jun 6^th, 2011	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #9 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 8:45am	Print Post
	Looks like a lot of Nice Lead!!...Those ingots will be a good size if your able to add them too the pot your casting out of! Seeing that much lead makes me a little jealous!! Terry

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #10 - Dec 9^th, 2013 at 11:24am	Print Post
	shovel80 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 8:45am: Looks like a lot of Nice Lead!!...Those ingots will be a good size if your able to add them too the pot your casting out of! Seeing that much lead makes me a little jealous!! Terry I have been accumulating it. (Hit a yard sale a few years back and bought 120 lbs of "fishing weight lead". 5 bars of linotype and a bunch of ingots of purish lead - 50 cents a pound. You just have to keep looking and let folks know you're looking. Adding 4.x lb ingot to the 20 lb pot guarentees a break for the temperature to stabilize!

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #11 - Dec 11^th, 2013 at 10:19am	Print Post
	westerner wrote on Dec 9^th, 2013 at 6:17am: Thought I was messy. Joe. You ain't seen nothing. When I finally get around to cleaning my dedicated casting bench I figure I'll reclaim about 10# of lead from splatter, etc. Probably just burn the towel I drop the bullets onto to reclaim that portion of the lead. Hell...... the whole thing is wood......... maybe I'll just burn it all and reclaim the puddle that's left.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16091 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #12 - Dec 11^th, 2013 at 11:12am	Print Post
	Since my pot is a small 20 lb. I use muffin tins also. Get them new for a buck at the Dollar store, so they're a cheap mold.

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Cast bullet alloy prep. Reply #13 - Dec 11^th, 2013 at 12:11pm	Print Post
	Well. I've got some 400 lbs of about 20:1 (mystery metal to tin) and a bunch of unprocessed pure lead. SO, I made contact with some folks here at work to borrow the xray defraction gizmo to determine what's in it. I'll melt ONE huge batch of the mystery metal and tin, analyse it and figure out what to add to make it Lyman #2 alloy. Then I'll make one or two huge batches of lead:tin (20:1 and/or 30:1).

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