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Be careful in the shop.
Sep 29th, 2013 at 11:38am
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I was turning a barrel yesterday and created quite a "birds nest" right underneath the chuck. I usually keep my machines clean and knew I should remove the chips. As I was about to do this an errant long chip grabbed the bird nest throwing it into the chuck jaws. This in turn flew up and grabbed the little pull string of my six foot shop lite above the lathe which came crashing down on me. It all happened in a matter of seconds and I wasn't hurt(just my pride). A word to the wise KEEP YOUR MACHINES CLEAN ! Now I have a big mess to clean up and a new shop light to install. Be careful everyone.

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Reply #1 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 11:53am
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Thank you for the heads up J and glad to hear you were not injured.

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Reply #2 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 2:33pm
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This is one of the best reasons to use chip breaking, carbide inserts.

I did what happened to you MANY times in the 70's and 80's when the shops I worked in were to cheap to buy tool holders and inserts.

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Reply #3 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 4:59pm
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Back in the "good old days," they used to have contests in shops to see who could generate the longest chip when turning.  The longest chip was proof positive that the generator knew best how to sharpen his tool for the speed, feed and material he was turning.  The practice ceased after enough "winners" got a faceful of that stuff when it inevitably snagged on the lathe chuck.

Glad to hear you weren't hurt.
  
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Reply #4 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 5:43pm
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It's easier to replace a shop light than part of your anatomy. Glad you weren't hurt.
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Reply #5 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 6:31pm
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I agree, light bulbs and lights are a lot cheaper and easier to replace than a finger or worse. I don't think that there is  anyone that runs a lathe that hasn't experienced the chuck slinging chips. I have a little lathe, I can pick it up and move it and even with something that small I still fear it slinging chips and do my best to keep them cleaned up and out of the way but it still can happen if your not careful.
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Reply #6 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 7:27pm
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A long long time ago I heard a story about a guy who always left the chuck key in his lathe. Until one day he forgot to remove the key before starting the machine. The key hooked his arm near the shoulder, tore it off. The unfortunate mans arm spun around and hit him in the head, killing him. 

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Reply #7 - Sep 29th, 2013 at 8:36pm
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A long chip is an uncontrolled razor-sharp wire saw waiting for a bit of bad luck to happen. We might think that we're the masters of the machines, but they won't stop if we get in the way. I have my grandfather's machinist chest. In one of the little draws with the tweezers for metal splinters and the clip-on safety lenses, is a little rubberized finger cot that protected the stub end of his thumb that he lost when he had a misunderstanding with a South Bend lathe. Made me think when he showed to to me when I was a kid. Still does.
  
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Reply #8 - Sep 30th, 2013 at 1:43am
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Wood working tools are quite unforgiving also. A momentary lapse in awareness/judgement resulted in this with a jointer.

Fortunately I still have my fingers, but not all the feeling they should have. This picture is from late in the second day. I shot a 249 Saturday AM (early in the second day) all bandaged up.  Cool

If it doesn't feel right, don't do it.

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Reply #9 - Oct 4th, 2013 at 1:57pm
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May I respectfully add to this thread : Don't wear sloppy poor fitting clothes around equipment.
Way back when, there was an old fella that worked in the shop where I learned the trade.
His only job was to drill a cross hole through a big steel pin.
They had him set up at a floor drill press with power feed, so that all he had to do was stick the part in, pull the lever, brush on some cutting oil and let it drill.
Needless to say it was very boring for him, and he used to look all around the shop, watching what the rest of us were doing while the drill was running.
He would always wear baggy, old full length sleeved shirts regardless of what time of year it was and one day as he was busy brushing on the oil and gawking, not watching his job, a metal chip spiraled up and caught his shirt sleeve.
In no time the drill had wrapped the sleeve around the spindle, all the way up to the poor fellows shoulder.
Luckily, his shirts were so old and rotten, that the material tore before doing any permanent damage.
But that was one bugged eyed old man, until they got him unraveled from that drill press !!
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 4th, 2013 at 9:36pm
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A long long time ago I heard a story about a machine shop that hired a cowboy to run a lathe. He was a real cowboy with a huge belt buck and cowboy boots. One day he left a chuck key in the chuck. When he turned the lathe on the chuck key grabbed his belt near the belt buckle, tearing it off. It spun around and hit the unfortunate cowboy in the head, killing him instantly.

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Reply #11 - Oct 4th, 2013 at 10:39pm
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A long time ago I was using a hole saw in my 3/4 hp drill. Old style drill, one speed and took a long time to stop. I was standing on saw horses and broke the guide bit in the middle of the hole saw, it was real irritating because the hole was almost thru the 2x10 so I just put the hole saw back in the hole without the guide bit and started the drill. Before I could do anything it made about three jumps and jerked me off of the saw horses and onto the concrete floor. DO NOT USE HOLE SAWS WITHOUT THE GUIDE BIT.
  

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Reply #12 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 12:58am
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My kinda funny story is this.......... I worked with an other machine shop and they had a young guy with at least shoulder lenght hair. He ended a cut on the lathe and bent down to look at the part. His hair caught in the chuck and pulled him in, it knocked him out, cold! Fortunately he had turned the lathe off before he bent down.

My only serious accident was in 2002, I worked on a lathe with a bad switch. It was the type that used a 18" lever on the lathe bed as a on/off/reverse switch. I was remachining a tractor spindle, between centers. I had finished turning the spindle and was using a file to blend the unmachined welded area into the rest of the spindle, standing next to the chuck. The lathe came on in reverse and the upright part of the spindle caught my coveralls and started pulling me, up and in, while beating me at 275 rpm. It don't know how I got away from it but, landed 3 or 4 feet from it. I really thought that when I looked down at I would see my guts hanging out. I still have a 2" dia. place on my stomach, in a raised scar and 3, now repaired hernia's.

I had been putting it in neutral when working near the chuck and over the bed but, I was in a hurry and It got me.

I had told the company about the bad switch for months but, they acted like it was no big deal.

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Reply #13 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:01am
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Frank, you know, you can live about forty eight hours with your guts hanging out.  

In 96 when I was young and tough, wrapped my left hand and arm around a rifle barrel. Luckily the barrel slipped in the chuck a little and was able to flip the switch off.  That was about five in the morning. Unwrapped myself and had another beer. Cleaned myself up, drove twenty five miles to the range for offhand practice. My hand looked like a boxing glove.  Never missed work.  I just thank god it didn't tear my arm off and hit me in the head and kill me.

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Reply #14 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 6:04am
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Thanks for all the stories guys. We all have done things we probably shouldn't have with less than optimum results. The bottom line is just be careful and  and take your time and never loose respect for the machines and what than do and can do to you. The most prized project is not worth being hurt. I will always remember the worst accident I ever witnessed in the shop(when I worked with the Boeing Co). It is too long to go into here but the person almost died from his injuries. So just be careful.

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