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.35-30 Maynard loads
Sep 18th, 2013 at 9:17pm
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Looking for information on mild smokeless loads for the .35-30. The bore slugs 0.369, so I bumped 160 gr. soft .38 bullets to that. I will probably get a custom mould if I go much farther with it.
I did a search, but only came up with a few references comparing it to the .38 Extra Long.
Any suggestions gratly appreciated.
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Re: .35-30 Maynard loads
Reply #1 - Sep 19th, 2013 at 10:40am
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Don't have specific information, but playing with a 38-35 lately. Case is 1.68" long, 290 grain bullet, breech seated. Started with 16 grains of 4227, ended up with 18 grains. Would guess 35-30 at three or four grains less. Maybe start at about 32-40 level and carefully increase.
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Re: .35-30 Maynard loads
Reply #2 - Sep 19th, 2013 at 6:56pm
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Hi Chuck
Thanks for the info. The .35-30 has a slow twist, so I'll stay with light bullets for now. Your idea for .32-40 levels of 4227 sounds like a good place to start. Not much written on loads anywhere I looked.
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Reply #3 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 7:25pm
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It's a very old thread, but did you ever make any headway with your .35-30 Maynard?  I just bought one and the previous owner was shooting 200 grain bullets over 12.5 grains of SR4759.  I haven't had a chance to shoot this one yet ... we're up to our buns in snow right now!
  

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Re: .35-30 Maynard loads
Reply #4 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 7:47pm
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I opened up a .358 pistol mold and made brass from .38-55. I didn't keep the load history as I sold the rifle and loading stuff to a guy in BC later. There were some decent results with 4227 and SR4759, but 1885's are my main interest, so when I encountered a few new 1885 projects, the Maynard was set aside and eventually sold.
I noticed your recent acquisitions in the pictures section. All the best with them
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Reply #5 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 8:15pm
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I will likely delve into some duplex loads in my Maynards with a light "kicker" charge of either SR4759, IMR4227, or maybe even with some very old Dupont Bulk Shotgun powder that I have a couple of pounds of and then I'll load the balance of the case with black powder.  There wasn't a mould with the rifle, but there are some sample Maynard bullets and I know that Accurate makes some moulds in the original Maynard designs so I'll look into them for this .35 and my three .40's.  I wish I could find a paper patch mould suitable for my .32-35 Maynard, but I might have to try altering an existing mould to make something suitable for it.  (Maybe a 7mm mould bored out into a smooth sided .300" paper patch bullet of about 153 to 160 grains.)
  

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Re: .35-30 Maynard loads
Reply #6 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 4:57pm
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The Accurate molds for the 35 Maynard are the 37-153M and the 37-180M. The 153 grain is very close to the original #1 conical bullet. I spoke with a friend who has had success with a 35-30 Maynard and he shoots a bullet from an original mold with a case full of black powder with a thin card wad between the bullet and powder. He has some cases for small rifle primers and some for large rifle primers. He said the small primers will beat the large primers all day long.

The '73 35-30 is just a different version of the percussion cartridge. Shooters in the N-SSA who shoot 35 Maynards shoot about 24 grains of black powder. Some shoot FFF and others shoot FF.  I hope this helps to get you started.
  
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Reply #7 - Feb 12th, 2019 at 11:14pm
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OK, thanks!  I also realized to today that I have the old Ideal / Lyman mould for a 145 grain .375" cast bullet that was for use as a gallery bullet in .38-55's.  Since I already have the mould and a few of the bullets cast I could try that first.  Still have to slug the barrels on all of these Maynards to see what bore sizes I'm working with.  I've found reference material online that says the .35-30 Maynard SHOULD have a grove size of about .370" to .375" with most of the bullets designed for it dropping out of their moulds at about .375".  Sound about right?  Again, I'll slug it and go from there.
  

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Re: .35-30 Maynard loads
Reply #8 - Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:00am
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The groove diameter will probably be between .368" and .370". Bullets from an original mold run .373" -.375" plus or minus a few thousandths. The percussion carbines were generally referred to as 36 caliber and sporting rifles with the same bore were called 35 caliber. Go figure. The 1882 versions of the 35 caliber had groove diameters of about .361"
  
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Re: .35-30 Maynard loads
Reply #9 - Feb 13th, 2019 at 9:25pm
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OK.  Again, I already have some of these old Ideal 145 grainers cast, lubed, and sized at .375" from memory and I can always reduce them in diameter to suit the actual slugged bore size.
Don't know how successful it'll be, but I bought a cheap ($10) used set of steel (non-carbide) .38/.357 dies just to get the sizer.  I'm going to see if my machinist buddy can ream / bore / polish the sizer die up to about .408" to .410" as an intermediate sizing / swaging die to bring the bases of the donor .30-30 cases down about 1/2 way to the .403" that is needed.  I lucked into a set of CH4D dies for my .32-35 Maynard and I hope I can finish them up in the full length sizer and bring them the rest of the way down to .403" at the base.  Then I'll shorten the cases to the required length, add the rim adaptors, and then fire-form them into .35-30's.  At least that's the plan at the moment ...
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