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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1632 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: Match Schuetzen Loads for 25-20 & 32-20 Wanted Sep 10^th, 2013 at 1:36pm	Print Post
	11.7 grs of #9 with a 205 gr Mos spritzer is the sweet spot for my 32-20. Its a CPA with a #4 Douglas barrel 1-15 twist. I suggest starting at 10.5 grs and work up at .1gr increments until you find your sweet spot. I was getting hard extraction at 11.8 grs. I recently started working with 4100 so its a work in progress. I will say the results so far look promising. Bob

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Match Schuetzen Loads for 25-20 32-20 test results Reply #1 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:29pm	Print Post
	I know you did't fire to many shots but how did the case hold up. In regards to the 25 WCF, AA4100 is a real good choice of powder for that case. Most of the fellows out my way are using around 9.6 grains or a tad more.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11451 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Match Schuetzen Loads for 25-20 32-20 test results Reply #2 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 3:32pm	Print Post
	200 yards? Joe.

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Match Schuetzen Loads for 25-20 32-20 test results Reply #3 - Sep 11^th, 2013 at 9:02pm	Print Post
	What is a 25-20WCF "Schuetzen" chamber? What makes a chamber a Schuetzen?

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Jerry_H Ex Member	Re: Match Schuetzen Loads for 25-20 32-20 test results Reply #4 - Sep 13^th, 2013 at 1:02am	Print Post
	SSShooter, I'm not sure what it takes for Ken to call it a "Schuetzen" chamber. My 25-20 WCF was chambered with a borrowed, well used, 25-20 lever gun reamer. Go figure?! Jerry_H


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Online Posts: 7262 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Match Schuetzen Loads for 25-20 32-20 test results Reply #5 - Sep 13^th, 2013 at 1:09am	Print Post
	Schuetzen chambers are most of the time, considered to be a cartridge that has a straight taper w/o a neck. We'll only know when Ken tells us though. Frank

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Match Schuetzen Loads for 25-20 32-20 test results Reply #6 - Sep 13^th, 2013 at 8:28am	Print Post
	I'm assuming your interpretation is that a "schuetzen chamber" is a neckless one designed specifically for breechseating that it could not hold a cased bullet due to its continuous taper from rim to case mouth. Is this a modern design variation; or does it have historic precedents?

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2917 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: Match Schuetzen Loads for 25-20 32-20 test results Reply #7 - Sep 13^th, 2013 at 9:52am	Print Post
	As Ken is asking about a 25-20WCF & 32-20, which are both BN cases, not sure the straight-case chamber would work.

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JackHughs Oldtimer Offline Posts: 657 Location: Riverbank Joined: Sep 27^th, 2008	Re: Match Schuetzen Loads for 25-20 32-20 test results Reply #8 - Sep 13^th, 2013 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	rafter3c wrote on Sep 10^th, 2013 at 1:01pm: The BRC .321 1-14.92 twist barrel is chambered 32-20 and throated for both Mos and Hoch 205gr tapered spitzer lead bullet. Unlike the 25cal. Hoch mould these two 32cal moulds are proven. Hi, It appears that your .32-20 chamber is similar to the .32-20 CPA. My best load for the .32-20 CPA is 12.8 gr. of 4100 ignited with a Federal 205 GMM primer. The bullet is a Mos 211 grain 5-groove "standard" design. MV's (measured with a Chrony) vary from 1475 to 1500 fps depending on temperature and humidity. The powder is held firmly in place with a single-sheet newspaper wad. It takes about 3 firings for a new case to settle-in. Performance is very good for the next 7 or 8 firings and then begins to drop off. After 11 firings, I look for incipient case seperation. This load is very hard on cases but that's a small price to pay for performance. JackHughs

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