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Re: Bibbyman's single shot rifles
Reply #15 - Aug 14th, 2013 at 7:58am
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I live on the side of a ridge that runs north-south. To the east of my property there is pine woods where the deer bed down during the day. To the west of me at the bottom of the ridge is the lake--read water. Toward evening the deer traverse my place toward the lake. Sometimes I sit on the front deck and take my revenge for them eating my garden. It's war.
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Reply #16 - Aug 14th, 2013 at 10:00pm
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Bibbyman, those are some great rifles you have there!! I would love to see your 577-450 if you have a picture of it. 
   Living 8 miles up county mud roads in Montana, I have had the same "problem" with our venison friends. I ran pack strings out of the wilderness for years for a living. When I got married and the kids started multiplying, I was forced to become like a "market hunter" to keep enough meat on the table. I could count on 8 deer tags per year. In 10 years time, I had killed my quota ever year (more with special "depredation hunt" tags). The only way I could stand it was to use my single shot rifles. It wasn't hunting, it was harvesting and butchering. My kids could break down a deer from skinning to freezer in about 20 minutes. Now that the kids are grown and gone, I hunt squirrels and rabbits. Killinging deer in those numbers took the joy of hunting out of the picture...
Hope you and the missus are enjoying the delicious fruit of your labors  Smiley
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Reply #17 - Aug 14th, 2013 at 10:31pm
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Did you meat out the whole deer or just take the hams and back straps?  Some guys around here are not field dressing or skinning their deer. They cut off the rear hams and split hide down the back and bone out back straps and that's it. Probably learned from poachers. It looks like an unsportsmanlike way of processing the deer but realistically the method is recovering 80% of the meat with 20% of the effort and a lot less mess. 

Do you have grizzly bears there yet?  I saw a show on History Channel were they told that grizzly bears would come to the sound of a rife shot.
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 15th, 2013 at 12:04am
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Bibbyman, 
   Yeah, I debated on posting that for a while. A whole lot of good folks don't live as close to the bone as some of us who are in the remote areas. We ate everything we could salvage (as I'm sure you and the missus do), neck meat (you should try my wife's venison mince meat pie !!), flank, ribs, lower forlegs, heart ( the kids called it Swiss steak because of the holes), liver, tongue. I'm a stickler about hair and fat, so the kids did a great job about it. I didn't mean to divert your post. You sound like a guy who earns his way, and you have my deepest respect for that.
        Sometimes, folks who trade comfort and the opportunity to earn great money, end up with something just as good, simple living and the satisfaction that comes from providing for your loved ones in a more physical means. I currently live in "town" (pop. 1600), but just black bear at my old place. The grizzly's have moved closer to town tho. Used to never see one closer than 30 miles out. Now it's more like 10.
   Still like to see your Martini! Here is my Swinburn sporting rifle, circa late 1870's or early 80's

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Caliber, Westley Richards # 2 Musket 
She is a beast to shoot, but sure drops a deer or elk!
   
My best to you and the Mrs.
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Reply #19 - Aug 18th, 2013 at 9:31am
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I dug out three reproduction single shots. 

Uberti high wall 45/70 with fancy tang and front sight
Pedersoli Sharps 45/70, appears unfired. 
Browning high wall in 45/70 (early model?)

The front sight on the Uberti is missing the level bubble and one screw. I bought the gun at an estate auction and the bubble and screw were still there when it auctioned but were missing when I picked it up after auction.  Anyone know where I could get just the bubble and a cap?
  
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Reply #20 - Aug 20th, 2013 at 9:02am
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Bibbyman, Have you tried VTI gun parts? The handle most parts for Uberti, ASM, Pedersoli, and others. They are a great resource for Italian rifle and pistol parts

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Reply #21 - Aug 21st, 2013 at 9:20am
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Thanks for the link.  They have the sights and have an assortment of bubbles but I don't see listed just a bubble and cap.  Maybe if I contact them.  Pricey suckers, aren't they?   

The Uberti and Pedersoli were bought at an estate auction where they had over 300 guns.  Most went for as much as they were worth and then some.  These two were going too low so I had to bid.  I got stuck but still a good investment. Don't you think?
  
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Re: Bibbyman's single shot rifles
Reply #22 - Aug 22nd, 2013 at 6:10pm
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Bibbyman,
   Yeah, all the Italian stuff took a pretty big jump when the Cowboy Action Shooting hobby took off.  It would be worth a call to VTI. I have found them to be really helpful and they will usually work with you, depending on what they have in stock. That Pedersoli would be worth putting a new sight on if it came to that!
   The estate auctions here don't normally turn up anything but busted farm equipment and old pots and pans. I've gotten a few gems over the years, but anything like rifles are usually sold at "blue sky" prices.

   Nice rifles, by the way !! 

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Reply #23 - Aug 26th, 2013 at 11:39pm
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Marlins and Woodmizers' what a great combination...  Wink


Do you know me from some place else?  


Yaw- FF.. I used to post there a lot. I sold and moved out of the out back and going to sell my LT-40 Kawamizer.   

I love single shots.

JP

  
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Reply #24 - Sep 9th, 2013 at 3:53pm
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Here are a couple of old timers that there is little to tell. The Martini Hinery 577/450 has only "FIELD RIFLE Co" on one line and "Birmingham" on another on the barrel flat just ahead of the action.  It has a small line of marks on the left side. I don't find the British arrow or any marks on the stock.  There is a string of 6 small numbers on the right side just behind and above the cock indicator.  They can be read from the top side and are obviously hand stamped.   Ahead of the first band is a rawhide repair where the stock looks cracked if not broken. 

The rolling block has no marking visible on the outside except for a P in front of the trigger guard. It's all complete and works.   Matching,  I don't know.  Looks to be 43 caliber.  Spanish,  Egyptian or ?? I don't know as there is no markings to say.

You guys have any info on these old dowgs?
  
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