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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1632 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Bullet drawing Jul 26^th, 2013 at 12:57pm	Print Post
	(You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I found this drawing on the internet and It looks exactly like the bullet from a Mos mould I purchased from CPA. Does anyone know if this is a drawing of a Mos 205gr bullet? Thanks, Bob

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #1 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	It does not resemble the one I have. The nose starts out more truncated and it isn't a base band bullet.

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rkaires Frequent Elocutionist Offline No Stronger Bond Posts: 1632 Location: Dingmans Ferry, PA Joined: Oct 26^th, 2012	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #2 - Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:31pm	Print Post
	Even the band measurements are a close match to mine. Here's a picture of mine next to one of Dave Bennett's sweged bullets. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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texasmac Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1893 Location: Central Texas Joined: Aug 16^th, 2004	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #3 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:00am	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 1:46pm: It does not resemble the one I have. The nose starts out more truncated and it isn't a base band bullet. J Louis, I've been shooting BPCRs for a long time and have never run across the distinction between a "base band bullet" and a non-base band bullet. Obviously the base of the subject bullet has a band. I'd sure appreciate a clarification. Thanks. Wayne

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #4 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 12:35am	Print Post
	Wayne the band is larger in proportion to the other bands and it is also typically longer, in the 150 to 200 thousandths range. If you run accross one there is no mistaking it as it stands out like a sore thumb and it generally does not have any taper to it as well.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11451 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #5 - Jul 28^th, 2013 at 2:40am	Print Post
	I've been shooting BPCRs for a long time and have never run across the distinction between a "base band bullet" and a non-base band bullet. Obviously the base of the subject bullet has a band. I'd sure appreciate a clarification. Thanks. Wayne [/quote] Same problem here. If there is no base band, would it be a healed bullet? I've always considered the term "base band" to be the bottom band of a bullet. There are narrow base band bullets wide base band bullets and any length in between. Has been explained to me as, a bullet where the base band is a larger diameter than the other bands. Among other explanations. The term has confused me since I started shooting Schuetzen rifles. Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11451 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #6 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:41pm	Print Post
	What is a "base band bullet" ? Anyone? Joe.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #7 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:56pm	Print Post
	Look it up, it as well as the others are shown in several of the Schuetzen shooting publications.

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Jeff_Schultz ASSRA Board Member Offline Posts: 1602 Location: Ransomville, NY Joined: Apr 25^th, 2004	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #8 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:59pm	Print Post
	It is also sometimes called a "driving band". I hope this further confuses the issue.

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Cat_Whisperer Frequent Elocutionist Offline No 1, 9.3x74R Posts: 3877 Location: Mountains of Virginia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #9 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 9:10pm	Print Post
	Jeff_Schultz wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:59pm: It is also sometimes called a "driving band". I hope this further confuses the issue. Your wish has been granted. I have a box of "driving bands" (copper) that can be inserted into a mould and then the bullet cast. (and they don't go in at the base)

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11451 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #10 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 9:28pm	Print Post
	JLouis wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:56pm: Look it up, it as well as the others are shown in several of the Schuetzen shooting publications. Where can I look it up, Louis? Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11451 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #11 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 9:30pm	Print Post
	Cat_Whisperer wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 9:10pm: Jeff_Schultz wrote on Jul 31^st, 2013 at 8:59pm: It is also sometimes called a "driving band". I hope this further confuses the issue. Your wish has been granted. I have a box of "driving bands" (copper) that can be inserted into a mould and then the bullet cast. (and they don't go in at the base) "base band" not "driving band" Joe.

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #12 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 10:10pm	Print Post
	Page 12 The Modern Schuetzen Rifle by Dell & Schwartz would be one source Joe.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 11451 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #13 - Jul 31^st, 2013 at 11:40pm	Print Post
	I dont have that book. Louis, if you will, for the group, tell us what it says? Just skimmed through Randy Wright's book - Loading And Shooting Traditional Schuetzen Rifles but found nothing on "base band bullets" The difference between a base band bullet and a non base band bullet. Joe.

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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: Bullet drawing Reply #14 - Aug 1^st, 2013 at 8:32am	Print Post
	About a year ago I reprinted an excellent article by Ken Meyer. It explained the difference between the tapered, 3 diameter, base band and cylindrical bullet. If you don’t get the Journal this is one good reason to get it. Otherwise contact the Archivist he can send you a copy for a nominal fee. 40 Rod


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