Who said Wano does not make sporting grade powder? I said no one uses the stuff for anything but Boller in Germany, least not for serious shooting

BTW: Note the photo Wano uses on the website is of reenactors, not precision shooters...
SS

With swiss at 22.40 a lb and goex ffg at 14.90 a lb
that's a difference of 7.50 per pound more for the swiss.
that's a 50% increase from the price of goex.
so, it doesn't seem like much per shot....but when a guy buys a minimum of 25 lbs at a time....it adds up!
I would like to use swiss, but can't do it shooting 3 black powder rifles....I use 80 Grains of Cartridge in my #7 Ballard with Winchester Brass with a Buffalo Arms 520 Grain Money Bullet...
and my 1885 .45-90.....Well, this Black Powder shooting is expensive for me....but, I love it and will hopefully always do it....I've also got a safe full of smokeless caliber guns.....I hardly ever use...except a 1911 that I use for Action Pistol Competition.

Terry 

I do like Goex Express FFg.  As far as shot to shot consistency it works as well as Cartridge did for me.  It is definitely more dense and gives higher velocities.  As an example I can fit 59gr of Express FFg into a .38-55 starline case ( filled to the mouth for breech seating ), although I'm only using 58gr now.  That gives me 1250fps with a 320gr bullet.   

In my Shiloh in .45-70 I use 69gr of Express FFg with the same amount of compression that I'd use on 66.5gr of Cartridge. 

Unfortunately my supply of Express in the FFg granulation has dried up but I was able to buy th remainder of Express FFFg and will see how that works soon.

Chris.

My biggest concern is fouling control since my primary uses are for hunting and a little bit of target shooting. I don't like to wipe the bore nor blow through the barrel betwen shots and for that reason Swiss is my first choice. If you are going to wipe or blow after every shot any of the powders are probably good...

SS

I'm sold on Olde Ensford,i'm shooting the last of my 2f Express, KIK,the Old E will keep up with any Of them and better fouling control than Swiss even in High humidity West Central Illinois, Bill

I bought some Graf's 3f to try out in my 38-55 just because it's much cheaper than Swiss. It was a dismal failure when I tried to duplicate my Swiss recipe, but I'm finding that it works much better with zero compression and large pistol magnum primers. The bullet is BACO 377325. Once the Graf's is gone I'll be going back to Swiss.

boats - shot with Jay B. today at Quinton and he had a good outing. 32/40 in our all off-hand match with the 440gr Hoch bullet in front of 60gr of Schuetzen through his CPA. He cleaned the chickens at 50m and pigs at 100m, so definitely has it dialed for the short distances.

Here's test I did in 2011 shooting 50 consecutive rounds ... 
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As for fouling control, one wet cotton ball & 3 dry with no patching or blow tubing for the 50 rounds -
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I also did a comparative this year between 2010 KIK (lot March 09) and the new Goex Olde E.  KIK foul was better but Olde E' was 100+ fps faster.  I have more work to do with Olde E' but KIK, lot March 09, is my Go To powder