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powderhead Full Member Offline Posts: 163 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2009	\Direct sunlight and case colors Apr 23^rd, 2013 at 8:47pm	Print Post
	I had a fellow collector tell me that direct sunlight would fade the colors of case hardened receivers. Have you ever heard this before? I have a few pieces that I keep out to enjoy looking at , and they catch some rays every sunlit day. Should I keep them in the dark?


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Deadeye Bly Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1067 Location: Stephens City Joined: Feb 25^th, 2011	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #1 - Apr 23^rd, 2013 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	Yes, on both counts.


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creedmoormatch Ex Member	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #2 - Apr 23^rd, 2013 at 9:31pm	Print Post
	The U.V. rays are the most damaging and will fade most any material they come in contact with over time. Of course, anyone who grew up with caring parents knows that U.V. rays will burn the skin and damage the retina in the eye ball, unless protective measures are exercised to prevent same. I have all of my guns' exteriors or exposed colors well protected with a liberal coating of sunscreen lotion whenever they go out to play. Don't use baby lotion for sun screen, it doesn't have any protective feature against Ultra Violet rays, just makes the Stevens slippery. C.M.M .


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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7575 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #3 - Apr 24^th, 2013 at 6:38am	Print Post
	Sun will fade anything, Old days Yachts with lot of varnish used to dock port side for a week starboard the next to avoid one side looking faded end of the season. Fall putting away for the winter you could easily see differences in finish if not switched. Looked under a tang sight the other day. Nice old Hepburn. Case that was out of the sun much brighter than the rest of the action. Might try hanging one way for a while then switching sides. Boats


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #4 - Apr 24^th, 2013 at 8:22am	Print Post
	Maybe its just that I'm old and a little faded but I like the slight fade of my first CPA. It has lost those sharp colors and has started to fade slightly onto a soft and range of colors. It shows that the rifle was a good enough shooting rifle to have been taken out and used. I look forward to us fading together. 40 Rod


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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7575 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #5 - Apr 24^th, 2013 at 11:24am	Print Post
	Agree have two one used a whole lot more than the other and prefer the more subdued color Boats


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 16290 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #6 - Apr 24^th, 2013 at 12:12pm	Print Post
	Has anyone really just left a brand new cased receiver or gun in the sunlight to see it's effect? Is the subdued color a result of the sun, or just normal handling and use, or cleaning? I've heard the stories of case colors fading in sunlight, but I've also seen guns that somehow saw almost no use in their long life, and colors were very nice. Always wondered if they were so nice from sitting in a dark closet, or from no handling and cleaning? Somebody needs to do a test, and tell my grandkids the results!

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #7 - Apr 24^th, 2013 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	Vall, Next time you have something color-cased, you can send along a scrap of 1018 to be run at the same time, then stick it under a UV lamp and watch what happens over time.

	There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading, the few who learn by observation, and the rest who have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Proud Noodlehead
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Redwing Oldtimer Offline Posts: 586 Location: Canton Joined: Nov 4^th, 2007	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #8 - Apr 24^th, 2013 at 9:33pm	Print Post
	Hey BP !!! I ain't got that much time !!! My "86" Favorite has been in a hard case for over sixty yr's and it still show's some color (original)... Like the Beatle's said. "You got to hide your love away".... Ed..


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40_Rod Frequent Elocutionist Offline Extremism in the persuit of accuracy is not a vice Posts: 4285 Location: Knoxville, TN Joined: Apr 20^th, 2004	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #9 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 8:12am	Print Post
	I have seen a couple of guns that had spent most of their life tucked away. One was a rifle ordered and the owner passed away before the rifle arrived. It was put away and then passed on to relatives who stored it also. The rifle and shooting set were sold to a collector all of it looked brand new. The other rifle was one that had seen little use and passed to a son who didn't shoot. The son finally sold it to a dealer. It also had bright crisp colors. Whether this is due to sunlight or handling I don't know. 40 Rod


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Aonghas Ex Member	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #10 - Apr 25^th, 2013 at 9:44am	Print Post
	boats wrote on Apr 24^th, 2013 at 6:38am: Sun will fade anything, Old days Yachts with lot of varnish used to dock port side for a week starboard the next to avoid one side looking faded end of the season. Fall putting away for the winter you could easily see differences in finish if not switched. Yacht varnish used to be made with polyurethane, and this is very susceptible to UV Aonghas


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John in PA Oldtimer Offline Posts: 580 Location: Hollidaysburg, PA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #11 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 1:37pm	Print Post
	I sent an inquiry on this subject to Doug Turnbull. I figure their outfit might be able to say something definitive about this question. I'll post the response when I get one.

	John Wells Hollidaysburg, PA Peabody and Peabody-Martini's Wanted!
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powderhead Full Member Offline Posts: 163 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2009	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #12 - Apr 26^th, 2013 at 9:44pm	Print Post
	John in PA wrote on Apr 26^th, 2013 at 1:37pm: I sent an inquiry on this subject to Doug Turnbull. I figure their outfit might be able to say something definitive about this question. I'll post the response when I get one. Please do! That's the kind of authority on the subject I'd like to hear from.


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John in PA Oldtimer Offline Posts: 580 Location: Hollidaysburg, PA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #13 - Apr 29^th, 2013 at 8:53am	Print Post
	Response from Turnbull Mfg: **************************** Sunlight harms everything over time. It will not fade it any faster than anything else in my opinion. Todd Burkett Shop Supervisor Turnbull Manufacturing Co., Inc. 585-657-6338 ************************************* I'm slightly puzzled in the sense that the answer can be interpreted as "it won't fade any faster than any other type finish", or, "sunlight won't fade it any quicker than other (unnamed) threats" Either way, the answer seems to be that (long?) exposure to sun will eventually fade the finish. Is that months, years, decades, or longer? Dunno. I probably wouldn't hang a CC'ed gun on the wall in a sunny location. Other than that, normal use and storage should be safe. (I guess... )

	John Wells Hollidaysburg, PA Peabody and Peabody-Martini's Wanted!
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Walter Matera Ex Member	Re: \Direct sunlight and case colors Reply #14 - Apr 29^th, 2013 at 11:13am	Print Post
	1. I don't know about you guys but I would never hang anything but a relic on the wall, period. My guns stay in my safe. 2. A little attention should tell you which walls of your house don't get direct sun. If you must hang a gun, hang it there, just like you would an art textile (Navajo rug, etc.) or a painting. 3. For those well off enough to get those locking 'burglar proof' safes with the polycarbonate sides you can see through, (like these: (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)) talk to the manufacturer about getting them UV coated. That ought to solve all the problems.


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