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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1102 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Ruger #1 30-06 & national Match ammunition Apr 13^th, 2013 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	I have a pair of Ruger #1s in 30-06 and am wondering if anyone had used "National Match" ammunition in a #1? I've tried to chamber national match 30-06 (1967) in both my Rugers and find that they are very tight if I can even close the action. The rifling is clearly engraved on the bullet. Is this normal with this type of ammunition? The natural follow up question would be is it safe to shoot assuming I can close the breech. Thanks, George


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boats Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7545 Location: Virginia Joined: Apr 23^rd, 2004	Re: Ruger #1 30-06 & national Match ammunition Reply #1 - Apr 13^th, 2013 at 6:12pm	Print Post
	"National Match" is not a standard thing. Hatchers book has the National Match 30/1906 specs for many years. It changed number of times. If your ammo comes from a reliable maker, one of the Government Arsenal's, chambers, and the block goes into Battery it should be safe to shoot Engraving the bullet is not a bad thing, although bolt guns have more camming power and probably not as noticeable as in your Ruger. Boats


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1102 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: Ruger #1 30-06 & national Match ammunition Reply #2 - Apr 13^th, 2013 at 7:02pm	Print Post
	These are Lake City rounds, 1967. Some I can get far enough in to where the slope on top of the breech block will force it in. But, if I open the breech, the extractor can't pull it out (unfired) and I have to use a rod to bump the case out. I only have a couple of boxes of this stuff and was going to use it to set up my scope. I know engraving the rifling is a good thing with cast bullets (which I shoot mostly) but I have never had this happen with jacketed bullets. By the same token, I've never used any National Match ammunition either, except for 308 in the M-14 when I was in the Marines. Just being cautious here. George


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Rooster Ex Member	Re: Ruger #1 30-06 & national Match ammunition Reply #3 - Apr 13^th, 2013 at 7:33pm	Print Post
	I have 30-06 Nation Match ammo from 1957 through about 1964. Is this stuff at all "collectable" or should I just shoot it up?


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Dr Tom Full Member Offline Posts: 211 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2012	Re: Ruger #1 30-06 & national Match ammunition Reply #4 - Apr 13^th, 2013 at 10:33pm	Print Post
	NM isn't SAAMI spec. The dimensions were chosen to match (sorry) the NM M1 chambers, which also were not SAAMI. The brass and bullets are usually very uniform, and LC67 is no exception. It may be useful to paint a case with Dykem or a marker to find where it sticks. NM ammo is probably collectable if in the original packaging. I used up all of mine decades ago in my Dad's two groove Springfield. The brass was saved, of course. I have reloaded it many times. Tom


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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2833 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: Ruger #1 30-06 & national Match ammunition Reply #5 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 4:21am	Print Post
	Following up on what Boats said, if you want a bit less chambering effort, you could run the ammo into a seating die set up to push the bullet just a smidge deeper into the case. That NM stuff was crimped to withstand repeated recoil in an M-1 or bolt rifle magazine. With your Ruger #1, that is no longer an issue. Nor is the strength of your rifle. It is dandy brass. Save your empties.


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George Babits Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1102 Joined: Sep 27^th, 2012	Re: Ruger #1 30-06 & national Match ammunition Reply #6 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 10:40am	Print Post
	That was my first thought too - - -push the bullet back a bit so it would chamber easily. The crimp is so strong that the shoulder expanded when I tried that. I think I would have to pull the bullet and then reseat it. When I can get one to chamber, the rifling is engraving about 1/4 inch of the bullet. As for collectability, I see it going on GunBroker for $1.00 to $1.25 per round in 200 round lots. I wouldn't call that "collectable" values as that is less than what commercial 30-06 ammunition sells for (if you can find any). George


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Kurt_701 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1015 Location: Missouri Joined: May 20^th, 2004	Re: Ruger #1 30-06 & national Match ammunition Reply #7 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 12:57pm	Print Post
	LC match ammo prices are effected by quantity, and packaging. M1 and M-14 chamber spec's allow for battle usage and are a little more generous. We use to make Mexican Match by pulling the GI bullets and seating Sierras. It required busting the bullet seal by using a seating die, then pulling the bullet with a bullet puller. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) Kurt

	M-14 3rd Battalion 27th Marines RVN 68'69'
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Rooster Ex Member	Re: Ruger #1 30-06 & national Match ammunition Reply #8 - Apr 14^th, 2013 at 7:31pm	Print Post
	Thanks guys, looks like I'll be running Gramps old Match ammo through his old Camp Perry '03. He said the gun never shot worth a crap.


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