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Canadian Long Gun Registry Data Destroyed
Nov 2nd, 2012 at 4:13pm
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Well, while the debate might not be over, the long-gun registry officially is.

On Thursday night, the Tories confirmed that all the records of registered long guns have have now been destroyed.

  
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Reply #1 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 5:08pm
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Congratulations Canadians!

Of course, the paranoid California "citizen" (and I use that term loosely, since gun owners haven't actually had much in the way of representation in CA for decades), in me says "Yeah, SURE they've destroyed the records...". 

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Reply #2 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 5:44pm
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Dave I am not familiar with your past laws so what does all of this mean, especially in regards to new purchases there and out of the country.

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Reply #3 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 6:15pm
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The only long gun registry data not destroyed is for the province of Quebec who is legally trying to force the Federal Government to hand over the data.

In Canada we still need to register handguns and we still need to have a Firearms Possesion Licence to purchase firearms and ammunition. Data for the registration of handguns is still retained for all of Canada.

Since 2001 we were required to register rifles and shotguns in addition to hand guns. WE basically got the present government to understand the registration process was costing vast amounts of money and did not reduce criminal acts with firearms. They finally agreed and have STOPPED requiring the registration of rifles and shotguns when you purchase them new or from some other owner.

For a Canadian to purchase a long gun from the US will only require us to follow the American laws for import/export permits and the use of FFLs for the transfer as per the American law; and to present our Firearms Acquisation Licence to the seller. Changes for the purchase of firearms from the US has not been clarified with recent changes to the Canadian regulations.

Before we needed an ATF form to bring our rifles to shoots in the US; which required providing our registration numbers for each rifle. Now we no longer have firearm's registration numbers.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 6:40pm
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Thanks Dave, a big step in the right direction for you folks on the other side of the line. It must have been a pretty big dollar amount to get them to change their minds. Now it makes one wonder what it is costing us.

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Reply #5 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 7:03pm
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JLouis wrote on Nov 2nd, 2012 at 6:40pm:
Thanks Dave, a big step in the right direction for you folks on the other side of the line. It must have been a pretty big dollar amount to get them to change their minds. Now it makes one wonder what it is costing us.
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What's it costing us ?.
When did the US of A start requiring long gun registration ?. I haven't bought a gun i about a year but don't ever remember having to register long guns or even handguns in the US, when did all of this start, and who let it happen ?.
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Reply #6 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 7:11pm
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H.M. you surely don't live in California then.

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Reply #7 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 7:44pm
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Correct, and I thank God for that, but my question was when did the US of A start requiring gun registration, gun guys don't consider that place part of the US of A, in fact some dealers wont even "export" guns to that place  Wink   Grin
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Reply #8 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 8:06pm
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Each state has pretty much adopted their own laws in addition to the Federal laws and those I am not at all familiar with. If I were to try and say anything in regards to the Federal laws it would be nothing but miss information and that is not my style.

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Reply #9 - Nov 2nd, 2012 at 9:23pm
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JLouis wrote on Nov 2nd, 2012 at 8:06pm:
Each state has pretty much adopted their own laws in addition to the Federal laws and those I am not at all familiar with. If I were to try and say anything in regards to the Federal laws it would be nothing but miss information and that is not my style.

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Good for you J. Louis, I thought maybe something happened in the USA while I was sleeping, being you said it makes you wonder what registration is costing us, US being USA of course, but I forgot, it's not your style to spread miss information.
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Reply #10 - Nov 3rd, 2012 at 2:01am
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We do have a form of national registration. You list the serial number of the firearm you buy on every background check (if the firearm has one). 

If it's not used for something, then why does it have to be listed? The background check is for the person buying the firearm and what the firearm has to do with the persons background, I do not know. The firearm, at least in this state has to be checked when purchased by a dealer so, it has no purpose at all. Here i could say that the purpose would be to connect (register) it to the purchaser but, I will not say that Smiley

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Reply #11 - Nov 3rd, 2012 at 6:53am
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In my State whenever I buy a rifle, pistol, or shotgun I have to fill out a form listing all the pertinent info plus a list asking various questions about my legal right to own the gun. My name, address & drivers license is entered on the form also, plus the number of my permit to carry, or, buy. That record is kept in the dealers files until....... here's the kicker....... he quits the business. Then all records have to be sent into the ATF.

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Reply #12 - Nov 3rd, 2012 at 2:20pm
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     My goodness, the gov't actually destroyed all the info?  All of those loud mouth semi-marxists that represent about 5% of the electorate must be "Howlin' mad." Wink
  

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Reply #13 - Nov 3rd, 2012 at 10:29pm
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There is no firearm info on any background check I have ever had run on me. The info all pertains to me, not to any particular firearm. The Seller is required to keep records for 10 years on any gun sold. If the seller is an FFL I think he has to keep records permanently.
  
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Reply #14 - Nov 3rd, 2012 at 11:35pm
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slumlord44 wrote on Nov 3rd, 2012 at 10:29pm:
There is no firearm info on any background check I have ever had run on me. The info all pertains to me, not to any particular firearm. The Seller is required to keep records for 10 years on any gun sold. If the seller is an FFL I think he has to keep records permanently.


slumlord44 is correct,
Of course some don't seem to know the difference between USA Federal laws and State laws. 

We are talking about USA Federal law her guys, not individual State laws.

There are no Federal "permits" required for any type of firearm in the USA, and there is no registration of any type for standard Rifles, Handguns, or Shotguns.

Ain't the USA a great place to live   Smiley.
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