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Reply #30 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 8:14am
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[quote] little picture show of Stevens 44s, here's an early 44/45 I own in the 4000 serial number range.     John Gross

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John does the rifle that you have illustrated have a 7:00 o'clock extractor and the two pivot pins for the B. block and under finger lever threaded directly into the right hand side action wall ?

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Reply #31 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 9:52am
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John does the rifle that you have illustrated have a 7:00 o'clock extractor and the two pivot pins for the B. block and under finger lever threaded directly into the right hand side action wall ?

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CMM,

Yes, it has the 7 o'clock extractor. The picture below should answer your question about the pins/screws. As to your prior questions about the originality of the sights and finish, nothing about the rifle suggests that anything has been altered or changed. 

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Reply #32 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 10:34am
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   Thank you John for your latest.

    The new photo does show the case coloring so much more improved and confirms, without any doubt, that it is the original Stevens applied finish.

    I was never aware that Gary Quinlan had such a desirable rifle available and part of his "for sale" inventory.  You are fortunate to be it's new owner and I feel certain that your period of possession will be one characterized as "cared for and protected."

My only regret is that we, as serious J. Stevens Arms & Tools Co. (J. Stevens) collectors, do not have an official American Stevens Firearms Collectors Association in existence with the expressed purpose of caring for, nurturing, and preserving the history of J. Stevens.

    Best wishes,

    Creedmoormatch

   P.S.  Just one additional regret, that Gary does not have a web site providing data and info RE: J. Stevens products, curios, and paraphernalia.

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Reply #33 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 11:04am
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I was never aware that Gary Quinlan had such a desirable rifle available and part of his "for sale" inventory.



Well, I didn't exactly buy it recently. I got it from Gary in 1995. 


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Just one additional regret, that Gary does not have a web site providing data and info RE: J. Stevens products, curios, and paraphernalia.


Gary is an antique, just like his rifles  Smiley

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Reply #34 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 8:20pm
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I'm a fan of Stevens rifles also, and I actually like the 44's better, even if they aren't as strong. The 44 is just such a pretty little gun, and it had such a long run, even outlasting the 44.5 that was supposed to make it obsolete!
Here's another 44 that I have posted here before. It's chambered in .22 Short, and has an extra length 30" barrel:
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Reply #35 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 8:38pm
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Stevens Pope 28-30, Gunbroker buy it now 100.00, year 2004.

Pictures 1&2 from original add 3&4 taken by AC Gould.

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Perfect bore, original tang sight, wood very slight handling marks, metal and case hardening you be the judge and as you can see the rifle was very well taken care of. A real classic Wood Chuck rifle of the highest order.

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Reply #36 - Oct 25th, 2012 at 11:23pm
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John,
I remember that rifle well and am still kicking myself for not buying it from you!!!!
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Reply #37 - Oct 26th, 2012 at 9:19am
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JLouis wrote on Oct 25th, 2012 at 8:38pm:
Stevens Pope 28-30, Gunbroker buy it now 100.00, year 2004.

Pictures 1&2 from original add 3&4 taken by AC Gould.

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Perfect bore, original tang sight, wood very slight handling marks, metal and case hardening you be the judge and as you can see the rifle was very well taken care of. A real classic Wood Chuck rifle of the highest order.

J.Louis



Hey! Is that my rifle?  Smiley

Here's my Stevens-Pope in 28-30, featured on the cover of THE GUN REPORT and pictured in the article about late numbered Stevens-Pope rifles. My barrel number is in the 1800 range and was purchased from Leon, who I believe is ACGould. 

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Reply #38 - Oct 26th, 2012 at 10:19am
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Yes, I do believe you are right!  I listed it for John and still kick myself for not buying it myself.
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Reply #39 - Oct 26th, 2012 at 10:47am
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Marlinguy,
I have a 44 that could be a twin for yours but in much worse condition.  Chambered in .22 short originally but the barrel has been set back and re-done in .22lr.  Unfortunately the barrel is shot.  It has an original windage adjustable front sight but no tang sight.  Based on the markings and the extractor Gary Quinlan figured about 1896 or 97 mfg.  
Are your receiver and buttplate nickle?  No finish left on mine but the receiver looks like it could have been plated in a spot or two.
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Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector
Reply #40 - Oct 26th, 2012 at 11:33am
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Mike65 wrote on Oct 26th, 2012 at 10:47am:
Marlinguy,
I have a 44 that could be a twin for yours but in much worse condition.  Chambered in .22 short originally but the barrel has been set back and re-done in .22lr.  Unfortunately the barrel is shot.  It has an original windage adjustable front sight but no tang sight.  Based on the markings and the extractor Gary Quinlan figured about 1896 or 97 mfg.  
Are your receiver and buttplate nickle?  No finish left on mine but the receiver looks like it could have been plated in a spot or two.
Mike


My front sight is a Lyman or Beeches combination sight, and rear is a Lyman 102 windgauge tang. The receiver and buttplate appear to not be nickle, but I see no signs of Stevens case either. I haven't ever broken it down to look at the internals for signs of plating.
  

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Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector
Reply #41 - Oct 26th, 2012 at 11:41am
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John that is indeed my $100.00 buy it now rifle. I often wondered who Leon sold it to and if the fellow was enjoying it. Have you shot the rifle, it just sat in my safe and I never took it out to the range as it was not a target rifle. Would it be possible to scan your article and e-mail to me at johnlouis123@att.net. I have the original listing on Gunbroker stashed somewhere and if you would like to have a copy I should be able to e-mail it to you. The rifle came from Washington state from a dealer. In speaking to him after the purchase while trying to get some background on the rifle he contacted the widow of the owner but she could not recall anything about the purchase of the rifle. When asked why the 100.00 buy it now he said it was the widows request and the terms for him selling the rifle for her. When asked why she was so adamant about the 100.00 dollar selling price she keep it personnel and would not comment on it. It then made me think that is was possibly a request from her husband prior to his passing and that she was honoring his wishes? It was listed as a Stevens Pope 22 lever action rifle or something to that extent so I was quite surprised when it arrived here. Being a 0441/2 action just added some frosting on the cake.

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Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector
Reply #42 - Oct 27th, 2012 at 9:05am
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JLouis wrote on Oct 26th, 2012 at 11:41am:
Would it be possible to scan your article and e-mail to me



John. I sent the text of the article to your email. If you don't receive it let me know as I got an "error" message when I sent it (maybe because it was a lot of text?)

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Reply #43 - Oct 27th, 2012 at 12:55pm
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John received in good order and thank you so very much. 

Outstanding work on the Article
Thanks Again
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