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Reply #15 - Oct 20th, 2012 at 5:16pm
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It's not for sale, sorry. My rifles become like family. When I'm gone, my wife will have that option though.

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Reply #16 - Oct 20th, 2012 at 6:08pm
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If they're getting anything close to that price, I sold mine too cheap! I sold my factory engraved Stevens 44 in .32-20 last year for less than that, and it had much nicer wood.
The wood on that gun appears to be pretty battered when compared to the rest the gun's finish.
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Reply #17 - Oct 20th, 2012 at 6:31pm
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I believe that the rifle that started this thread was on Gun Broker for a while. I have to agree that the price is more than I believe they go for even in great condition. I just bought the one in the accompanying photos for $800.00. It also is a 25-20SS, but without the tang sight and Beech front sight.  I felt that I paid all the money on this one but it is in such good condition it was worth it. Had a few guys go over the rifle and they all agree that it is all original and not fooled with one bit. One of them was Paul Shuttleworth. I value his opinion. There are a few dings in the wood but nothing that's that distracting. The color case is better than 98% in my book and the bluing around 95%. The bore rates a 95+ in my evaluation with a Hawkeye bore scope. No cracks in the wood.
I guess it's like I been told before that the worth of an item is what it sells for on the day it is sold. However, there are somethings that are far to hard to put a price on for one person but worthless to another. I'll pack some bucks away in fine old rifles as the interest rates at the banks are a real shame. Besides fine old single shots are a bunch more fun to fondle,shoot, and just look at than a pass book that doesn't change unless you make a deposit!!!
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Reply #18 - Oct 20th, 2012 at 11:09pm
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I like yours better for $800. Thing is I don't have a .25-25 and have been looking for one for a while. No big hurry and don't have money burning a hole in my pocket.
  
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Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector
Reply #19 - Oct 21st, 2012 at 2:58pm
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Yes, exactly, you can have the world's nicest 32-20 or 2520                     wcf and ok, it's fabulous.  As I said before, it's the very rare chambering that sets this one apart.  I think Franks 32-40 with the hammer shelf is worth , today 1000.00 to 1250.00 minimum, meaning a sale within 30 days.  Because if you put it on Gun Broker and roll it over and over, a year could go by.  There is a Hopkins & Allen been up fore 2 years at $900.00 or so.  It might sell someday.
  

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Reply #20 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 9:15pm
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I ran it up to $800. Thinking about going another $200 if it comes up again. Don't think that will buy it but no one else has stepped up to the plate yet.
  
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Reply #21 - Oct 22nd, 2012 at 11:16pm
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I sent the guy an email to find out what his bottom dollar was. $1875 plus shipping. I wished him luck with that. Not in todays economy or any other in recent history in my opinion.
  
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Reply #22 - Oct 23rd, 2012 at 12:01pm
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   Slumlord, in my experience asking for a guys bottem dollar just means to him, the game is on.  That doesn't mean an e-mail saying Gee, I'd like to have a real, honest, from the factory 25-25.  So much so I'd go, oh...$1500.00.  But not a dime more... basically these are 500-800 dollar rifles, but the caliber makes it worth that to me.
  

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Reply #23 - Oct 23rd, 2012 at 2:44pm
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My limit on this one would be $1000. If it was a 98% gun I would have bought for his price. Not worth that much to me at this point in time.
  
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Reply #24 - Oct 23rd, 2012 at 4:57pm
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Since this has turned into a little picture show 
of Stevens 44s, here's an early 44/45 I own in the 4000 serial number range  Smiley

The barrel is 30", no rear sight dovetail so it 
was set up for the tang and globe sights from 
the get-go. The rifle is fairly heavy for a 44, 
probably about 10 pounds. If it were a Winchester barrel I would say it's a number 3 weight. Caliber is 25-21. 

Lots of finish and varnish and a perfect bore. I got it from Gary Quinlan several years ago, and those of you who know Gary know he doesn't collect junk  Smiley

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Reply #25 - Oct 23rd, 2012 at 10:22pm
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That is one nice 44. I have a plain Jane 44 in .22 Long Rifle that is in about that condition. Walked into the New Berlin Ill gun show several years ago and walked right up to it. Gave the guy the $700 he was asking without a question. Met Gary at the Kansas City show a few years back. He is one interesting guy and yes he has nice stuff.
  
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Reply #26 - Oct 24th, 2012 at 8:19am
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  TO; 32-35

   Hello John Gross:

   Let me compliment you on your very handsome and well cared for J. Stevens rifle.  Are the front and rear sights original to the piece at the time of first retail sale?

   I know both Gary, and his wife Judy, and see them frequently at Allentown or PA Antique Collectors gun shows, and of course in March at Timonium MD.  They are just down the road from me, well the Interstate 76 road. Did the rifle come with information as to it's chain of ownership and or use?  It appears to be one that was owned by a little old Amish lady who used it only on Saturdays to get the raccoons out of her melon patch, kind of like that proverbial '77 Buick that was only driven on Sunday to, and back, from church.

The photo doesn't do justice to the case colors, but they have to be original, would you not agree.

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Reply #27 - Oct 24th, 2012 at 8:50am
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If they're getting anything close to that price, I sold mine too cheap! I sold my factory engraved Stevens 44 in .32-20 last year for not a lot more than that, and it had much nicer wood.
The wood on that gun appears to be pretty battered when compared to the rest the gun's finish.


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  Upon further inspection of this "for Sale" rifle's photos, I have to agree with you, in that I to believe it to be priced too dearly.  As you have pointed out, the wood shows heavy use, almost to the point of neglect, as in "throw the gun in the back of the pick-up" at the end of the day in the field.

  Your engraved rifle was most likely owned (earlier in life) by folks who had an appreciation for the aesthetics of the piece.

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Reply #28 - Oct 24th, 2012 at 12:28pm
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Rifles to some are tools that are used daily to rid themselves of a variety of critters for numerous reasons other than sporting. This still holds true today and it is quite common for both farmers and ranchers to do just that. The rifle is far from being a target rifle and it was probably carried in the front seat of a pickup for easy access and possibly on a horse and in a scabbard. To say the rifle was abused and or neglected would be the furthest from the truth. Looking at the screws and the overall appearance it appears the owner did indeed take very good care of the rifle when taking into consideration what the rifle was probably being used for.

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Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector
Reply #29 - Oct 24th, 2012 at 8:59pm
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I would agree with that assessment. I have mostly shooter grade guns in my collection with a few realy nice collector grade guns. I enjoy them all. The difference is usualy in how much you have to pay to get them. I also understand that a rare gun demands a premium. I paid dearly for  a few guns even though the condition was not as nice as i would like just because they were difficult to find in any condition. Thats part of the fun.
  
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