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creedmoormatch Ex Member	4 the J. Stevens Collector Oct 19^th, 2012 at 5:03pm	Print Post
	F. Y. I.--- A very nice original J. Stevens Rifle Model No. 44 action in 25-25 Caliber for your consideration. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) CMM


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MT Chambers Full Member Offline Posts: 141 Location: Foam Lake, Saskatchewan Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2011	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #1 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:24pm	Print Post
	I honestly didn't know that 44s went for that much, nice gun however.


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32 ballard xl Full Member Offline Stand on your hind legs, and shoot like a man. Posts: 129 Location: Akwesasne, New York Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #2 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:33pm	Print Post
	It is a rare chambering, but even so I would guess 500 too high.

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creedmoormatch Ex Member	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #3 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:49pm	Print Post
	I am in total agreement with both of you two gentlemen. My suspicions tells me that if an offer were to be made which reflected a $500. deduction off the asking price, that it would be agreeable with the seller and procure the rifle in question. CMM


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Kermit1945 Oldtimer Offline Posts: 980 Location: In Flux Joined: Aug 31^st, 2011	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #4 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	He had it on GB with a starting $$$ of $595, IIRC. Some folks have tried a starting bid and find out it doesn't meet the reserve. What's up with that?

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skratch Ex Member	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #5 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 11:17pm	Print Post
	My guess is it was a rifle that was well used but cared for, if the bore is good. The asking price, high. I concur that $500-700, maybe a wee bit more would be fair for a 44 considering the condition of the wood and caliber. skratch.......
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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #6 - Oct 19^th, 2012 at 11:42pm	Print Post
	I ran it up to $775 when it was first listed on GB. If it was a 44 1/2 I would think $500 less than the asking price, or $1500 might be fair. I am thinking $1000 tops. It is decent but far from what I would call collector quality. Am I off on my asessment of this one or not?


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #7 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 12:13am	Print Post
	slumlord, I'm tending to agree with you. I think I see pitting on the upper left side of the receiver where it transitions to the octagon receiver ring. There are a couple buggered screw slots so someone may have been inside the action to make repairs. Also the threads of the aperture disc on the Marbles tang sight should not extend through past the front of the stem, so someone may have run a tap into the stem to install a non-standard disc. My 2 cents.

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2923 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #8 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:34am	Print Post
	Also a few spots of rust. Am always amazed when folks post pic's of a firearm for sale and don't bother to give a decent wipe with a light coat of gun oil to remove any light surface rust. That said, appears to be a nice little 'shooter' that I wish I could afford. Especially like the way they did that half-round barrel taper.

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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JCHannum Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 435 Location: Toledo Joined: Aug 8^th, 2007	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #9 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 9:59am	Print Post
	The mention of the barrel taper brings up the question, does the taper appear steeper then the normal Stevens half octagon barrel? Judging by the overhang of the front sight dovetail, the muzzle appears smaller than normal. Has the barrel been turned down or is it a trick of the photos? There appears to be rust/pitting near the sight base, so if it has been modified, it was some time in the past.

	Jim H.
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waterman Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2847 Location: Behind the Redwood Curtain Joined: Jun 9^th, 2004	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #10 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:27pm	Print Post
	Agree that the barrel taper is a bit too fast for a Stevens #2. At least for the 28-30 with a #2 barrel in my closet. Maybe it was a special order from Stevens. They did that. Also, that looks to be just a plain Model 44, nothing fancy at all except that odd barrel taper. But I looked at a lot of the stuff on the guy's site (which itself is pretty good) and it all seems way overpriced.


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32 ballard xl Full Member Offline Stand on your hind legs, and shoot like a man. Posts: 129 Location: Akwesasne, New York Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #11 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 1:31pm	Print Post
	Only reason I valued it at all highly is what I think of as a rare chambering. I'm guessing it's a plain 44. I think that the floor value of a complete plain 44 is 500.00. Yes, I too used to be able to buy these for $50.00, $100.00, $250.00 ( that only about 3-4 years ago). But that was then, this is now. But then I add for the sights. And then, if I was more of a collecter than user, how many 25-25's have I ever seen, in the flesh, so to speak. By a plain 44, I mean one without the hammer/breech block shelf that in effect is another lock-up. That would make it worth a lot more(to me) as a shooter.

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32 ballard xl Full Member Offline Stand on your hind legs, and shoot like a man. Posts: 129 Location: Akwesasne, New York Joined: Feb 20^th, 2011	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #12 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 2:00pm	Print Post
	I just re-examined the pics and I think it fits in the acceptable range of what they let out the door of a shop that was only really concerned with the bore and groove and maybe the chamber. Their reputation was in results at the target or squirrel tree, not in the looks dept. I noticed the case hardening is as nice as anything I've ever seen, except in a photograph of a one-of-a-kind. The wood is nice fence post grade. Nice is nice, fence post or not. That is a not very sophisticated windage adjustable front sight. I prefer seperate adjustments on sights, myself. Although I know most everyone else prefers bi-axial sights.

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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7324 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #13 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 2:33pm	Print Post
	This thread has made me curious as to what my 44 might be worth. I bought it in 1985 for $350. It was my very first SS. Four more followed that year It's a early 32/40, 28", #3 barrel, 7 O'clock extrator, hammer block, original 2A rear sight, 17A front. It's as nice as it looks Frank

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SSShooter Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2923 Location: Southern NJ Joined: Aug 1^st, 2010	Re: 4 the J. Stevens Collector Reply #14 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 4:59pm	Print Post
	frnkeore wrote on Oct 20^th, 2012 at 2:33pm: This thread has made me curious as to what my 44 might be worth. I bought it in 1985 for $350. Frank I'm thinking about $425 to give you a fair profit. Where do I send the check? Very nice rifle. If I had not just ordered the new barrel for my Low Wall build I would be seriously interested. Timing is everything...........

	Glenn - 2x CPA 44 1/2 w/22LR (Shilen ratchet-rifled & Bartlein 5R rifled), 38-40RH & 38-55WCF (Bartlein 5R rifled) & 40-65WCF (GrnMtn 'X') barrels
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