Frank I have a close friend that is looking at possibly using a stop ring bullet. Do you happen to have any information on how the chamber would need to be designed for that type of use. I am not trying to distract from your breach seating topic as it might add another viable approach to loading one's own at the same reduced cost.

J.Louis

JMO But I think Frank posting his scores.Using cheap Ammo.Upsets some of the high dollar crowd.?? That don't want to change for any reason.As their way is the right way .Maybe you don't want to do what Frank is doing but at least enjoy the descussion. Rather than always finding fault with peoples ideas.
And if someone should beat you using his method. So What?. Either join or buy more expensive Ammo as it seems for some money is not a problem.But I do wonder how many more would be in the sport and compete. If 22RF ammo was cheaper to compete and pratice with. As I said just my O. Whitey

As for the use of a stop ring, it could be done with the standard comerial chamber. At .775 long, there is plenty of room for a chamber size or smaller stop ring but you'll have to watch out for exceeding what a 16 twist barrel will handle if you use up all of the chamber. 

You could costum size the chamber length to fit the application or go to a 14 - 12 twist.

Another area of of fixed or BSing that could be explored is a bore riding bullet. I've had good results with bore riding, 30 cal , BSed bullets in my 32/35 with 1.25, 5 shot groups at 200.

You have to remember here that for every case of some match 22rf ammo you buy, you rebarrel your rifle, simple as that!

American ingenuity as always been unlimited and I don't know why people want to let foriegn companys rule the RF game. We were once first in everything now, we seem to be satisfied to just sit back and go with the flow.

Frank

A "heeled bullet" is a heeled bullet. A "stop ring bullet" is a stop ring bullet. 

     Joe. 

Yeah! You rich guys!!!   

Joe. 

mmmmmmmmmm, FB, I like that target. I have yet to shoot a 22rf match at 200 yards. I'd be hard pressed to find the holes, even in the white.

As a wedding gift to me and my wife (I have wonderful friends ), I was given 2 bricks of Fiocchi, MaxAC. Is that anything like your 320?

Frank

I wanted to stay out of this, but I feel compelled to add my thoughts. Winning is not everything in the shooting sports, although it is what we all strive for.
One of the reasons I stopped shooting competitively is because of the shooters who made it uncomfortable for novice shooters or those who were there to enjoy the sport, by being so high strung.
I see no problem with having expensive guns and spendy match ammo, and the novice shooters wanting to learn the sport will always be at a disadvantage with beginner's equipment and ammo. It's part of every sport to not start out with the best of everything until you decide if you like it or not. 
If shooters in general continue to spend so much time worrying about those who can afford spendier guns and ammo, rather than trying to hone their skills, the sport will suffer. Many will give up because they think they can never get to the highest levels without these things. 
I think rather than emphasize the equipment and ammo, we need to emphasize the comraderie, and enjoyment we get from shooting. If it's not fun, then we need to find some other sport to enjoy. Too many sour faces, and poor attitudes made me decide I'd rather shoot casually than shoot with those types who are so serious they can't enjoy themselves.
BS'ing RF ammo seems like another way to enjoy the sport. And anything that changes things up, or makes it a little more fun should be encouraged, not argued over.

Ok,
If ASSRA shooting is not about following the rules as they are written why have any rules ?.

If some are so worried that new shooters cant afford the cost of good 22 ammo and that's  the reason they don't get involved, why don't some of you guys petition the BOD to pass a rule that no one can use ammo that cost more than $ 2.00 per box, I'm sure guys like Frank and John would be ok with a rule like that then the "rich guys"  couldn't  "BUY"  a win.

I know that some of you guys just go to a match to socialize, I also go to socialize, have fun shooting, and to shoot the best my equip and I can, not to test loads or experiment, I do all that before I go to an event. 

It has nothing to do with preventing anyone from experimenting with what ever they want to experiment with.

Why is it that when a member makes a sensible suggestion like changing ONE word in the 22 RF ruling that a few always try an turn it into a peeing contest.
  S T