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RoyB Oldtimer Offline Posts: 832 Location: Dartmouth, MA Joined: Mar 28^th, 2011	OK...Back to the Lyman Mini Sharps...38-55 Oct 14^th, 2012 at 6:53pm	Print Post
	First I'd like to thank the folks that sent me bullets to test. No fewer than four folks on this forum and a couple from Cast Bullets send samples to try. I'll say it again, shooters are some of the nicest folks you'll ever meet! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) So I cast a bunch of Lee bullets out of 20-1 Alloy. They dropped at .380-3805. I sized them to .379 (as that is the only sizing die I have for my Star Lubrisizer until Chris from Lathesmith gets me my .381. And I need to order a custom die at .381. I lubed them with SPG lube. Shooting in a hurricane at 50 yards I turned in a number of GREAT five shot groups. Here is a representative example. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) I also loaded up a few bullets that were donated to the cause. Here is what they turned in! These were .381 and simply shot great. This is why I decided to move to .381 (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (Six Shot Group) But the strange part of this whole episode is the fact that the "store bought" bullets, cast with the same Lee mold I'm using and measuring .379, all tumbled. Yet my .379 bullets were not tumbling and were extremely accurate.......Huh? I also shot some "Cash" bullets at 100 yards. I was using a large post in the Lyman 17 front sight. It would have been better with a circle front sight. This is a five shot group! Talk about two bullets in the same hole! (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) On Friday I picked up a new Winchester Model 94 (continued next thread)
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RoyB Oldtimer Offline Posts: 832 Location: Dartmouth, MA Joined: Mar 28^th, 2011	Re: OK...Back to the Lyman Mini Sharps...38-55 Reply #1 - Oct 14^th, 2012 at 6:54pm	Print Post
	Sporter in 38-55. This rifle will not chamber anything over .379 and the brass must be full length sized. But it is also shooting excellent groups with the same 9g Unique load. 50 Yards, Tang rear sight, Lyman 17 front, circle insert. Three shot group. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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JLouis Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 10625 Joined: Apr 8^th, 2009	Re: OK...Back to the Lyman Mini Sharps...38-55 Reply #2 - Oct 14^th, 2012 at 11:00pm	Print Post
	Looking good, thanks for sharing Roy. J.Louis

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RoyB Oldtimer Offline Posts: 832 Location: Dartmouth, MA Joined: Mar 28^th, 2011	Re: OK...Back to the Lyman Mini Sharps...38-55 Reply #3 - Oct 20^th, 2012 at 6:08pm	Print Post
	Back to the range today..........I bought a used #378674 Lyman mold for 335g / .380 bullets. I cast up a few last night out of 20-1 alloy. 9 grains of Unique......... Out of the Lyman Ideal rifle they made the strangest noise as they tumbled to the 200 yard target. Couldn't hit a 24" square target. At 50 yards they were shooting 18" groups and hitting the paper perfectly sideways! I tried them in my new Winchester Model 94 / 38-55 and they shot great. But they were so long they will not feed from the magazine and you can't eject a loaded round. No good! The LEE .380 bullets shot fantastic over 9g Unique with SPG lube and CCI Large Rifle primers. Both rifles were shooting 4-5" , five shot groups out at 200 yds in the wind. Very impressed with this performance. I was going to order a custom mold at .381, but with performance like this, I'm not sure I'm capable of shooting any better.
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Irascible Senior Forum Member Offline Posts: 279 Location: Pleasant Valley Joined: Apr 6^th, 2007	Re: OK...Back to the Lyman Mini Sharps...38-55 Reply #4 - Oct 28^th, 2012 at 2:33pm	Print Post
	I was wondering what brass you are using, especially in the Winchester? New manufacture Winchester brass is too short and has std neck thickness. Starline makes the correct length at 2.125 and the neck is thinner so that you may be able to use .380 or maybe even .381 bullets in the levergun.


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RoyB Oldtimer Offline Posts: 832 Location: Dartmouth, MA Joined: Mar 28^th, 2011	Re: OK...Back to the Lyman Mini Sharps...38-55 Reply #5 - Oct 28^th, 2012 at 5:42pm	Print Post
	I'm using Winchester Brass. I'll have to measure it to see what its length and thickness is.

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QuestionableMaynard8130 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 4144 Location: Benton Harbor MI Joined: Apr 17^th, 2004	Re: OK...Back to the Lyman Mini Sharps...38-55 Reply #6 - Oct 29^th, 2012 at 3:11pm	Print Post
	brass and chamber need to match. Old chambers may require longer brass. more modern chambers might be cut for the shorter contemporary style brass. a Cerro-safe chamber/throat cast might be a big help

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