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Reply #15 - May 23rd, 2012 at 6:37am
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And then there is the Italian service rifle I saw advertised with "traces of original grease"

Imagine all those battles lost in North Africa and it kept the origional grease.  I put in a bid but not sucessfull.  Darn !

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Reply #16 - May 23rd, 2012 at 7:55am
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A couple of terms I find useful if the seller is honest in their usage are "frosty bore" indicating very minor but uniform roughness and "salt and pepper bore) which I would expect to be a little bit worse.  I also pay attention to descriptions that include such words as "rifling sharp" etc. In point of fact, though, I really want to see it myself, and if I'm not holding it would expect a 3 day right of return.  JMHO, some dealers start with "Returns not accepted" which makes me pretty leery.

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Reply #17 - May 23rd, 2012 at 10:03am
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I am certainly aware that telling someone a bore is crappy means different things to different people and was only used to demonstate my frustration with non descript terms. Assigning a number to bore condition is certainly more then  acceptable if it is followed by descripters. I do think that a number system is the way to go if it tied to various descriptors that clearly illustrate the bores condition.The big thing is to make the grading of bores at least as good as the NRA or Blue Book illustrations for external evaluation.  It isw certainly not perfect but better then the often convoluted descriptions you see now or the exact opposite where the seller tells you nothing .
  
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Reply #18 - May 26th, 2012 at 11:22pm
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Asigning a number, or any method of judging a bore is only good if people ee things they're elling the same way that buyers see them.
Too many sellers exaggerate everything from external finish to bores, and it doesn't matter if we rate them 1-10, if the seller calls it a 10 and I call it a 6. Or if the seller calls it excellent, and I call it poor.
  

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Reply #19 - May 27th, 2012 at 9:22am
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I think people are always going to have different ideas of what is good too excellent/ Poor etc.
If you can't see it yourself before you buy, I'd say make sure there is at Least a 3 day return policy, so that if it isn't what you had expected, you can return it for a refund. 

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Reply #20 - May 27th, 2012 at 10:46am
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Long before they banned the sale of barrels on Evil bay, i stopped buying barrels on there due to misleading bore's stated.I wanted a shootable barrel, according to most of them if you see light thru the end of the barrel, it was OK, despite the rust and pits.Now they have resumed the sale of barrels, i do not care, as you must return 9 out of 10 barrels.Not worth the trouble.
  
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Reply #21 - May 31st, 2012 at 9:01am
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Last year I went to look at an 1876 Win. in 40-60 that was being sold by one of the locals that does the gun show thing. He told me the bore was bright and shiny and the gun shoots great. When I looked down the bore it was indeed very bright and shiny and there was no trace that it ever had any rifling. Almost like it had been reamed out for a shotgun and I asked again about how good it shot and got the same answer, shoots great. I had to pass on it. I have tried to make other deals with this same person and found that his guns must have gold in them someplace to establish the high value he puts on them.
  

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Reply #22 - May 31st, 2012 at 10:29am
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"shoots great" as in every bullet came out the muzzle when fired.
Shoots very accurate, nope.
  
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