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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Apr 25^th, 2012 at 12:01am	Print Post
	What is this ? About .50 caliber sights missing..Marked with a six point star on most parts(Turkish ?) and the trigger and lever a "W" under the star.Also the letter "S" on the left side of the barrel. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links) (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)
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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2247 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #1 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 12:37am	Print Post
	Don't know the answers to your questions, but someone has put a home made/modified cocking indicator into a Peabody Martini, and removed or broken the safety lever. You might want to take your questions over to the British Militaria Forum, britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/directory. David

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LINOWW Junior Member Offline Posts: 82 Location: washington state, dry side Joined: Oct 10^th, 2007	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #2 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 12:41am	Print Post
	38_Cal wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 12:37am: Don't know the answers to your questions, but someone has put a home made/modified cocking indicator into a Peabody Martini, and removed or broken the safety lever. You might want to take your questions over to the British Militaria Forum, britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/directory. David thanks for the link info. i noticed the lever was different but is very well made(same looking age and wear) and not looking like a home shop job.
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tbird1960 Senior Forum Member Offline He shoulda armed himself. Posts: 331 Location: Brazoria, Texas Joined: Aug 14^th, 2006	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #3 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 11:39am	Print Post
	The only martini with a safety like that is a Turkish martini.

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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2247 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #4 - Apr 25^th, 2012 at 9:40pm	Print Post
	tbird1960 wrote on Apr 25^th, 2012 at 11:39am: The only martini with a safety like that is a Turkish martini. The first version of the British Martini-Henry Mk I and all of the Peabody Martini rifles used that sliding safety. Think that some of the Swiss rifles had it as well. David

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tbird1960 Senior Forum Member Offline He shoulda armed himself. Posts: 331 Location: Brazoria, Texas Joined: Aug 14^th, 2006	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #5 - Apr 27^th, 2012 at 11:17am	Print Post
	Here is an article about the British Mark 1 with a close up picture. No safety. As far as I know the American made peabody martini is the only one with this type of safety. Be interested to see something showing that the British martini had one. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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tbird1960 Senior Forum Member Offline He shoulda armed himself. Posts: 331 Location: Brazoria, Texas Joined: Aug 14^th, 2006	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #6 - Apr 27^th, 2012 at 11:59am	Print Post
	Here is an article about the British Mark 1 with a close up picture. No safety. As far as I know the American made peabody martini is the only one with this type of safety. Be interested to see something showing that the British martini had one. (You need to *Login* or *Register* to view media files and links)

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MartiniBelgian Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1687 Location: Aarschot Joined: Jun 7^th, 2004	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #7 - Apr 27^th, 2012 at 1:13pm	Print Post
	Oh yes, the British Mk I had one - only it was 'modified away' afterwards, so that all-original Mk I's are pretty rare now. In actual fact, the Turk Providence Peabody Martini was completely patterned after the Brit Mk I, except for calibre. The Brits found the safety more of a liability than a help, so...
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peterson2520ss Full Member Offline Life member 82 Posts: 128 Location: Yakima, WA Joined: Nov 3^rd, 2009	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #8 - Apr 27^th, 2012 at 4:22pm	Print Post
	i just got this rifle. I was made by Providence Tool Co. It is 50/70 gov. Check Boys Single Shot Rifles page 546. DET


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mwhite49 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Camarillo California Joined: Nov 14^th, 2007	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #9 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 6:28pm	Print Post
	This is the exact same action that Peabody used to make the What Cheer models and Creedmore rifles. Mike


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38_Cal Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2247 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Joined: Apr 27^th, 2005	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #10 - Apr 30^th, 2012 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	mwhite49 wrote on Apr 30^th, 2012 at 6:28pm: This is the exact same action that Peabody used to make the What Cheer models and Creedmore rifles. Mike And also the Kill Deer... David

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mwhite49 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 1600 Location: Camarillo California Joined: Nov 14^th, 2007	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #11 - May 1^st, 2012 at 5:36am	Print Post
	I forgot the KIll Deer, if it were mine I would head that way and use the action as a donor for building a nice rifle up. Mike


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tbird1960 Senior Forum Member Offline He shoulda armed himself. Posts: 331 Location: Brazoria, Texas Joined: Aug 14^th, 2006	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #12 - May 1^st, 2012 at 12:02pm	Print Post
	If I am not mistaken Peabody made the Turkish Martini's and the What Cheer, Kill Deer, and if I remember right the Rough Rider.

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FITZ Oldtimer Offline REGARDS Posts: 917 Location: MASSACHUSETTS Joined: Apr 16^th, 2004	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #13 - May 1^st, 2012 at 8:14pm	Print Post
	The Turk Rifles and the series of Long and Mid Range and also the Kill Deer were made by Providence Tool Co. in Providence Rohde Island. Very well made Rifles and were quite accurate. Have been working on them for about 4 years with a friend doing restoration to original configuration where possible. Regards, FITZ.

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graduated peep Ex Member	Re: PEABODY MARTINI IDENTITY HELP Reply #14 - May 12^th, 2012 at 7:50am	Print Post
	Coming in here a little late,but will put my 2 cents in. If your P/M is in 50-70, I would think it is a very rare bird; as most of the military production was in 11.43x55R Turkish. Since it has the remains of a sliding trigger safety it would be a Type-1. Type 2's were cheapened up by eliminating the safety, and I think made up the bulk of production which was reportedly some 600,000 units. Where are they all now ???? As someone already pointed out, these are the same actions used on Providence Tool's fine single target rifles of the late 70's, early 80's. Somebody mentioned a "Rough Rider" model ? I think it is "Rough and Ready". Also as aside,it's been indicated that the barrels used on either Mass. or Conn. ( I forget which)marked .45-70 Peabodys used leftover Peabody/Martini barrels, as they have Henry style rifling. You do what you want, but I'd hate see a hard to find gun in a rare caliber get taken apart when there's so many common M/H actions floating around. I'd be looking for a M/H cocking indicator,which should fit, and find someone's complete rifle to copy the safety parts from. But that's me.


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