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Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Apr 3rd, 2012 at 9:48pm
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I just bought this one. I am thinking that the lever was added after the fact at some point in time. I am not aware of any such option that was available, but then they would prety much sell you what you ordered back in the day. Factory or modification? As I recall there may have been discussion on a checkered forearm on the 417 also. It looks right but it could also have been switched out later or been checkered by someone after the fact. Opinions?
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #1 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:08pm
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Did someone try to modify an earlier 44 series loop lever to somewhat fit the 417 grip curvature?
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #2 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 10:49pm
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That would be my first guess. Seller claimed it was rare special order. I assumed it was not in my bidding. Will be able to tell more when I get my hands on it.
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #3 - Apr 3rd, 2012 at 11:52pm
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slumlord44, The 3 finger loop lever was a no cost option, the one on your rifle looks pretty beat up. There's a NOS lever on Gunbroker ($80.00), just type in stevens 44. You really should get some catalogs from Cornell.       ...MIKE... Wink
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #4 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 1:23am
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I have most of the catalogs. Do not remember seeing this as an option on the 417. It was an option on the 44 from what I recall. My memory tends to fail me more the older I get though. Was that a loop lever or the standard 417 lever? Seem to remember seeing a standard 417 lever a while back when I did not need one.
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 2:01am
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Yes there was a std. lever, the loop is still there. Have you got the reprint 1939 steoger's cat? It's in there!!!    ...MIKE...
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 8:23am
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I have the Stevens not the Stoger catalog.
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #7 - Apr 4th, 2012 at 8:38pm
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Mike, I took a look at my Stevens Catalogs and could not find any mention of an option on the lever, however I did look at an original Stevens Replacement Parts Catalog that I have and it shows a loop lever for the 417-417 1/2 as well as the standard lever, plus the standard 44 lever. From that I would have to think that it could have been ordered with any of the 3 levers shown. 
Does anyone know if the checkered forearm was an option? I ran a search here  and there has been some discussion on the checkered forearm but no one seemed to know for sure if it was factory or done after the fact.
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #8 - Apr 5th, 2012 at 11:03pm
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Ok, where are all of my Stevens collector friends out there? I know someone out there knows more about the 417 options than I do.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 1:52pm
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slumlord, When the 417 first came out, Stevens used the standard lever (lazy S),then, quickly replaced it with the tang lever, they also origanally had blued frames (but I don't want to confuse you anymore than you already are). If you P/M me your snailmail address, I'll send you a photocopy of an Ad describing the the optional loop lever.        Your Pal, MIKE
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #10 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:52am
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DeHaas also states, in More Single Shot Rifles and Actions, that at least the 417 1/2 could be had with the loop lever at no additional cost.

Nice find!!
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #11 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:56am
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He also indicates that three different levers were available for the 417 and that checkering could be had at extra cost.

Again, nice find!
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #12 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 4:32pm
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Thanks for the input. Need to check the DeHass book again.Been a while since I looked at it. The deal gets better the more I learn about it. I thought it was a fair deal even if the lever and checkered forearm were not correct. Anxious to see how it looks when it arives. Hopefuly by the end of the week.
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #13 - Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:45pm
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Re read the De Haas book again. Haven't looked at it since I bought my 417 1/2 a while back. Forgot how much good info in his books. That's why I bought them in the first place. Did not realize they also offered the 417 in .22 short. Now I have something else on my want list. Already have a 418 in .22 short so it needs a mate.
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #14 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 7:50am
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You kill me with you Stevens collection! I just want any of the 400 series! 414, 417, 418....any! I am about to "create" one of the 417s from a 1915. If I had stocks to duplicate it would be a fun project!

Please keep putting pics up! The Stevens were my first interest. My first gun was a little tip up pistol that belonged to my Great Grandfather. That was all it took to get the bug!
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #15 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 6:46pm
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MB, Don't forget the 404.                                                  Slumlord, Keep an eye out for the Pony Express.   ...MIKE...
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #16 - Apr 9th, 2012 at 9:46pm
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Supposed to get here Thursday. Problem is that I will be at the NRA Convention that day. Maybe it will show up tomorrow. Going to Cardinals Opening Day Friday. Busy week.
  
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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #17 - Apr 12th, 2012 at 9:45pm
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Caught the UPS guy on my way to the NRA Convention. Gun cleaned up well and shoots fine. Lever was better than it looked. Sights correct. Shoots fine. Only problem is that stock had been shortened about an inch. Butplate is numbered to the gun and needed a little work but looks fine now. Need to do a little re fitting of the stock to the butplate to make it right but for the price I am happy. Hope to shoot it on paper next week. Need a rear sling swival and a couple of screws that Numerich has in stock.
  
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Reply #18 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 9:32pm
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Slumlord--NICE score!  I'm jealous and happy for you

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Re: Stevens 417 Walnut Hill Variation
Reply #19 - Apr 14th, 2012 at 10:26pm
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Thanks, the more I tinker with it the better the deal seems to be. I am in the process of cleaning up a Lyman 438 that I have had for a while to put on it. Cleaned the lenses, stripped and re painted the mounts, and should get it back together soon. Went on a kick a while back and bought a few scopes when they went for a reasonable price on EBay. Will have 438's on all 3 of my 417's. Sure seem to shoot better with a scope and the 438 was an option on the 417.
  
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