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Loading black powder cartridge
Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:20am
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I would like to ask is there another method to
load the cartridge with out a drop tube? I don't have a tube...How did the buffalo hunters of years ago do it
while in the wild hunting..Did they have the tube?
I think there has got to be another way to do it..Why can't one just do a slow pour through a small funnel?

Thanks for any ideas you may have..John Alpine NY
  
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Re: Loading black powder cartridge
Reply #1 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:54am
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You certainly don't need a drop tube to load blackpowder.  It does allow for a little more powder in the case and uniformity from shot to shot.  Most target shooters use a drop tube because it can reduce the standard deviations.  
Use a full case of black with a card or fiber wad and a small amount of compression.  Some powders take more compression and you will have to experiment to get your best accuracy.  Bob
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 11:55am
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you can gently tap the side of the filled case with a pencil,  try 5 taps or 10 taps it will settle the powder for consistent burn.  art
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 1:32pm
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I pour from the scale weighing pan into the hole in the funnel from about one foot above it. It works as well as a 24" drop tube.
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 5:00pm
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Breech seating at the range drop tubes are not convenient. I throw the BP charge then tap the case with a small brass rod. Powder settles nicely.

Friend of mine who is a very good long range black powder cartridge shooter gave me the method. He never drop tubes

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Reply #5 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 5:25pm
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All sound pretty simple to do..Thanks for the ideas...John
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 6:02pm
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I would like to ask is there another method to
load the cartridge with out a drop tube?

John, the answer is yes.  Vibrate the powder to settle it.  The choice of a vibrating mechanical device is your choice  Grin  I use a hand messager and an old model Sonicare toothbrush.  Drop tubes in my opinion are a pain in the backside

There was an article in the Blackpowder Cartridge News a few years back comparing the powder column heights between a drop tube and a vibrator.  The difference was less than 0.01

So, Alpine, NY is your home.  There was a woodchuck on a farm in Alpine that know the sound of our old 52 Dodge 4 door sedan and would boogy to his den before we could get up the road.  Maybe because the Dodge needed a new muffler.  Anyway, I walked in over a mile one afternoon, he was feeding along the wood line on the ridge - the 220 Swift was his demise
Also, used to trout fish below the falls in Newfield - we hitchhiked to go trout fishing before any of us had a driver's license. Robert H Treman State Park was another favorite.  Another day, caught a native 19" brown trout from under a bank above the mill.  Used to also camp on the island below the 3rd falls - bull frogs in the evening - legs in the morning with the eggs and potatoes
I had some great times up that neck of the woods... I was born and raised in Elmira

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Re: Loading black powder cartridge
Reply #7 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 6:41pm
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boats wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 5:00pm:
Breech seating at the range drop tubes are not convenient. I throw the BP charge then tap the case with a small brass rod. Powder settles nicely.

Friend of mine who is a very good long range black powder cartridge shooter gave me the method. He never drop tubes

Boats


I load BP same as Boats.   

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Reply #8 - Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:06pm
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Joe and I do everything alike.

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Reply #9 - Jan 30th, 2012 at 7:02pm
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I would like to ask is there another method to
load the cartridge with out a drop tube?

John, the answer is yes.  Vibrate the powder to settle it.  The choice of a vibrating mechanical device is your choice  Grin  I use a hand messager and an old model Sonicare toothbrush.  Drop tubes in my opinion are a pain in the backside

There was an article in the Blackpowder Cartridge News a few years back comparing the powder column heights between a drop tube and a vibrator.  The difference was less than 0.01

So, Alpine, NY is your home.  There was a woodchuck on a farm in Alpine that know the sound of our old 52 Dodge 4 door sedan and would boogy to his den before we could get up the road.  Maybe because the Dodge needed a new muffler.  Anyway, I walked in over a mile one afternoon, he was feeding along the wood line on the ridge - the 220 Swift was his demise
Also, used to trout fish below the falls in Newfield - we hitchhiked to go trout fishing before any of us had a driver's license. Robert H Treman State Park was another favorite.  Another day, caught a native 19" brown trout from under a bank above the mill.  Used to also camp on the island below the 3rd falls - bull frogs in the evening - legs in the morning with the eggs and potatoes
I had some great times up that neck of the woods... I was born and raised in Elmira


Great story...I fished in that hole below the falls in Newfield as well...I live right off the boat ramp going into little lake (cayuta)  I have only lived here a couple years...From PA below Sayre  You know where that is as well..Hick Town Towanda,,,,,,lol so where u live now?
  
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