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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7650 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Original front sights Nov 7^th, 2011 at 4:12pm	Print Post
	I thought I'd start a new thread for this and not muddy the Maynard one. I would like to know what the difference is between the Winchester, Marlin Ballard and the Stevens front sight is. I have two of them. One I call a Stevens and the other I think may be a Winchester but, I really don't know for sure about either. They are different though. The insert keeper will not work on both and the inserts are narrower on one. Pictures of the differences and measurements would be greatly appreciated. Frank

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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Original front sights Reply #1 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:10pm	Print Post
	They all have numerous different front sights. You would need photos to identify specific sights. They also used other manufacturers sights as options with different applications for different sights. Nick Stroeble has a very good refernce book on metalic sights and scopes that is very helpful.


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frnkeore Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 7650 Location: Central Point, OR 97502 Joined: Jun 16^th, 2010	Re: Original front sights Reply #2 - Nov 7^th, 2011 at 9:35pm	Print Post
	Thanks Slumlord, I do have Stroebles book but, they are all so similar that it's hard to tell the difference without good pictures or dimensions such as dove tail widths of the windgage slides and other things. Frank

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ron Oldtimer Offline Posts: 579 Location: Augusta Maine Joined: Nov 15^th, 2009	Re: Original front sights Reply #3 - Nov 8^th, 2011 at 7:35am	Print Post
	I agree with you, dims. would be nice while machining a barrel. Ron


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Original front sights Reply #4 - Nov 8^th, 2011 at 2:55pm	Print Post
	Good idea. I think a book with sight dimensions would sell really well.

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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12333 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Original front sights Reply #5 - Nov 8^th, 2011 at 7:48pm	Print Post
	Gerald Kelvers books have sight drawings with numbers. Dont know if they contain front sights. Joe.

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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Original front sights Reply #6 - Nov 8^th, 2011 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	I also wish there was a better reference. Strobels is helpful and I have learned a lot over the years through experience but it is still often difficult to identify a particualr sight. I have a Lyman windage adjustable tang sight that matches nothing in any reference that I can find.


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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Original front sights Reply #7 - Nov 8^th, 2011 at 9:02pm	Print Post
	Slumlord44, Can you post a picture or two of it?

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slumlord44 Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 2850 Location: Lebanon, Illinois 62254 Joined: Dec 21^st, 2007	Re: Original front sights Reply #8 - Nov 9^th, 2011 at 8:18pm	Print Post
	First I would have to find it. Not sure if I put it on a gun or it is in my sight drawer. Then I will have to remember how to post the photos here. Have photobuckt set up on my cell phone so if I take a photo on the cell camera it automaticly goes to photobucket. That simplifies one part. My cell camera actualy takes prety good photos. Will see what I can do.


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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18048 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Original front sights Reply #9 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 12:16am	Print Post
	One thing is for sure; Win. and Marlin both standardized on a 3/8" dovetail, but Stevens had other sizes besides 3/8". I've owned Stevens with dovetails both larger and smaller than the std. 3/8".

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Original front sights Reply #10 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 1:52am	Print Post
	Some early Remingtons used the same larger front dovetail found on the earlier Stevens.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18048 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Original front sights Reply #11 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 11:00am	Print Post
	How early? I've got some very early Rolling Block sporters and they are 3/8 dovetails.

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BP Frequent Elocutionist Offline Posts: 8039 Location: Westside Joined: Aug 27^th, 2006	Re: Original front sights Reply #12 - Nov 10^th, 2011 at 4:43pm	Print Post
	Val, Mostly find the larger front dovetail on E Remington & Sons marked barrels. The #2's (with the metal forearm tip) occassionally have the larger dovetail on Remington Arms Co marked barrels as well.
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westerner Frequent Elocutionist Offline deleted posts and threads record holder. Posts: 12333 Location: Why, out West of course Joined: May 29^th, 2006	Re: Original front sights Reply #13 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 4:35am	Print Post
	I have a very early Remington rolling block rifle. Not drilled for a tang sight. Not rebated, long lower tang. It has the large dovetail for the front sight. The only rifle I have that might have killed a buffalo. Joe.

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marlinguy Frequent Elocutionist Offline Ballards may be weaker, but they sure are neater! Posts: 18048 Location: Oregon Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2009	Re: Original front sights Reply #14 - Nov 11^th, 2011 at 9:58am	Print Post
	I've got one too Joe! Always thought it might possibly have been there too. Mine is #1 Sporter, .44-77 bottleneck, with SST, and 34" heavy barrel, no tang sight holes. Just figured if a guy was a buffalo hunter, it would have possibly been a good choice!

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