Tell us more Mr Louis! 
Mike

John,   I have noticed just lately that my  1-16 & 1-20 bullets than I have been shooting is WAY better that the 1-30 & 1-35 lead that I have been shooting for the last year.

Also been working with several different lubes.

Maybe it all comes down to having my right eye worked on, boy what a difference...

Wow thank you for your response Van I am finding the same results as you are obtaining with the harder alloys as long as they don't lead.

Please keep us informed as you move forward and I will do the same as long as that small group of negative individuals who have a tendency to chime in can refrain from any derogatory or demeaning remarks based on the original positive post.

J.Louis

Smaller groups will be shot with harder alloys as the price of tin goes higher.   ledball

ledball wrote on Oct 15^th, 2011 at 10:35pm:


Perfict!    


John Louis.   

Some rifles will shoot only soft bullets, some will shoot medium hard bullets. Some will even shoot very hard bullets. 

We, usns, are dealing with many different rifles and variables.  Different rifling profiles . Different component combinations.  Some of us even have a new shooting eyeball. 

So, with all those variables I cant say yes or no to your question.   

I will say that I have two old wide land Douglas .32 barrels that prefer a different hardness as to bullet alloy.  Both barrels were made about the same time with the same dimensions and rifling profile.  I chambered one and Paul Shuttleworth chambered the other.  I used a straight sided 32/40 Pope style chamber made for breech seating, no throat at all.
Paul used a standard 32/40 reamer with a gentle taper lead in to the rifling.

My barrel requires harder bullets 20 -1 or harder. 

Pauls barrel requires 30-1 to get the best accuracy at 200 yards from the bench.  

Variables John, variables.   

Neither barrel will shoot wheel weight alloyed bullets accurately.  I didnt spend much time trying to make them work. A couple years effort. The frustration was to much for me so went back to lead and tin.

           Joe.  

Van I am currently using a mix of 1 1/4lbs. Hardball and 1 3/4lbs. Pure Lead which should give me a BHN around 11 and so far I have had good results with it. The long term goal is to keep sneaking up on the hardness a little at a time to see where the accuracy starts dropping off or the leading begins. I have been purchasing my Hardball through (You need to Login or Register to view media files and links) for those who might like to give it a try. 

J.Louis

Joe I found your post very informative and I also found your mention of having two barrels that were basically identical with two different throating methods and one seemed to like harder alloys the other softer and it makes me wonder what the relationship might be if any? 

I have a full understanding of all the variables Joe that is why I get so much enjoyment out of my quest to try each of them one at a time in an effort to find those that tend provide better all around results not only for myself but the entire group. Harder alloys just happens to be the variable that I am currently working on and that is why I posted my request to those who just might happen to be doing the same as Van has stated. 

The variables between what I am shooting and Van is shooting could only be imagined yet there is one variable that we both  currently have in common and that is the harder alloys are providing us both with better results.

J.Louis