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Oct 10th, 2011 at 8:02pm
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I got lucky at the auction and picked up 2 German Martini's, one is a Kessler and the other I'm not sure on. One is marked " Grhert Hofhurhsrmacher Munchen 30-40" I think this maybe the retail merchant in Germany and not the maker. I will have to wait and see when I get them shipped to me.
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Reply #1 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 8:02pm
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Here is the Kessler style.
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Reply #2 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 9:25pm
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Congratulations Mike it looks like you just picked up two very fine Rifles so please keep us up to speed on how well they shoot once you have them in hand and based on the apparent condition of the two it looks like you are headed for a tremendous amount of pleasure.

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Reply #3 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 10:30pm
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Thanks, I just wish I knew the calibers, auctioneer said center fire for sure so we wait and see.
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Reply #4 - Oct 10th, 2011 at 10:46pm
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ni-i-i-i-i-i-i-ce!!!   keep us updated.
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 11th, 2011 at 12:04am
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Well I love them both! Centerfire is a big plus, and something that should be easier to make ammo for! Nice purchases!
  
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Reply #6 - Oct 11th, 2011 at 1:11am
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This was one of those auctions that was really strange, items that I thought would go for 4-10,000 went for under 4. Other items went way high and someone really wanted them, no rhyme or reason. I hate bidding as an absentee bidder but it does have it's benefits in that you will never pay more than you really wanted to in the heat of the auction, so maybe in way, being an absentee bidder is better. I guess.
Finding decent antique guns that are not overpriced is getting harder.
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Reply #7 - Oct 11th, 2011 at 1:31am
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I like um. I want um, BAD!   



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Reply #8 - Oct 11th, 2011 at 2:32am
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Hi Mike.            Congrats to those nice German items.  Wink

I guess the letter fragment you mentioned stands for "Karl Gebert Hofbüchsenmacher München", translated "Karl Gebert, royal gunsmith, Munich".

Gebert was one of the most famous gunsmiths in Munich at the beginning of the last century, he was the 2nd president of the "German Gunsmith Association" and he faded away in 1917 (hope I am right with the year).
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Reply #9 - Oct 11th, 2011 at 10:14pm
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Hi Biggi, thank you very much for the translation. Any idea on what time frame he would have made this rifle? 
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Reply #10 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 6:34pm
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I did find out one of these is in 22 cal, the other one I think is a 8.15x46r, he said the bore mics at just over .3???. Have to wait now and see.
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Reply #11 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 6:38pm
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Looking forward to your first reports of that purchase. I am very interested in the details.

When do you expect the delivery?

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Reply #12 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 6:41pm
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A .22 rf---COOL! Grin  Might be a 1920-ish conversion of an older 8mm, like it seems mine is.  Should shoot really great---once you find the right ammo
  
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I have to assume that the old barrel was drilled and a liner installed to get it to the 22 sizing. This was done in Germany more than liely. I get them early next week, they shipped today. Both have good bores and the dealer that is shipping the 5 rifles I purchased is drolling on them all. I got lucky with these 2, a Ballard in 32-40 with DST, a Krag carbine-cut down rifle in a real carbine stock, a Stevens Model 44 1/2 barreled action in 25-20 with DST. This was all done using absentee bids too. Auctioneer would not do phone bids. A Pope barreled Ballard went for 3,800, A Bullard schuetzen in 32-40 went for 3,000. 
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Reply #14 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 9:04pm
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I might have some diopters to fit the rifles Mike.   

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