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Re: Side Hammer Peabody
Reply #15 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 12:33am
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Thank you but I do have a copy of Hull's book.
  
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Reply #16 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 4:26am
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What is Hull's book?

Mike,  the tapered 43 Spanish cartridge is the "Reformado".  The Spaniards had so much trouble getting the bottleneck cartridge to shoot accurately that they rechambered a lot of them and used jacketed over-sized bullets.  If you measure the bullets used in the tapered case, you will find they are close to .45 cal.  The Argentine rifles must have used different chamber specs, because they are reasonably accurate.

IIRC, "Cartridges of the World" has the whole business backwards.  The Reformado was the last type of 11 mm Spanish case.
  
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Reply #17 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 8:20am
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Waterman:

Providence Tool Co. Military Arms by Edward Hull  1978-9

This is a self published 9x12 paperback.  Besides some catalog reprints it is about the only thing in print regarding these rifles.  It was hard to find for many years, but Dixie has recently reprinted it for not much money.

  
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Reply #18 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 11:56am
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I have a rolling block in 43 Spanish Reformando.  The Internet sources say these are rechambered 43 Spanish with the original bores of.439.  Mine has a .446 bore, so I question that.

The fired case slopes from web to the end, not much bottle neck shape to mine at all.  Case length is correct.  I use .348 brass
  
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Reply #19 - Oct 13th, 2011 at 11:41pm
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Itsatdm,

Is your Reformado roller made by Remington or by a Spanish outfit?  Or it could be a contemporary re-barrel.  I think the Spanish gave up on the Remington-made rifles and a new barrel was probably the easiest way out.

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Reply #20 - Oct 14th, 2011 at 7:58pm
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It is Spanish, made at the Oveido arsonal and so marked. I am sure it is original.  Prior to that, Remington actually made the guns and shipped to Spain.   

Whether those were rechambered or not I do not know.  But the Spanish gune are all over the place to barrel dimensions.  I have not done a chamber cast but it will take a .454 bullet so to say it is oversize is an understatement.   

It also has head space problems.  I think Montana arms has 348 brass with extra thick rims to address that problem.
  
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Reply #21 - Oct 30th, 2011 at 7:34pm
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The Peabody is a .43 Spanish. I restyled mine to a Peabody Sporter configuration when I was a teenager and it liked Lyman 446110 (in my case a HP) sized .446. I used it for 200 meter Cowboy Silhouette with 28 grains of SR 4759. Eventually I had it re barreled to 357 (no Mag loads!) for use in 100 meter Pistol Cartridge Cowboy Silhouette where it is performing admirably. The heavy trigger pull due to the pivoting v mainspring powering both the hammer and the trigger is the biggest drawback. It is still the sexiest rifle on the range.
  
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Reply #22 - Oct 30th, 2011 at 10:19pm
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Thank you for all the info, gentlemen.  I'll be putting off playing with it until after hunting season but soon after we'll be on the range.  I'll post results if anybody is interested.
  
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Reply #23 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 9:39am
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Revelation!  I believe I may have purchased a Peabody chambered in 44-90 What Cheer! I found a related topic on this site and even though my chamber casting doesn't match exactly it seems to be closer than anything else I can find.  I'm excited!
  
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Re: Side Hammer Peabody
Reply #24 - Nov 2nd, 2011 at 11:46am
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Whe are you goingt to poast a picture?
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Reply #25 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 9:12am
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Mike - I posted a few pics just after your first or second response. The 44-90 seems like a good fit for the case but the 1:31 twist doesn't seem to make much sense with the boolits called out. I'll know more after I hit the range, hopefully I'll be surprised.
  
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Re: Side Hammer Peabody
Reply #26 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 11:37am
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sjd-  I dug out an original 44-90 Peabody cartridge I paid $5 for a very long time ago.  They don't look very much like the fire-formed case on the left in your photo.  Dimensions are very different, even observable on the grid in your photo.  Plus they were made to be used with very heavy bullets.  Suggest you keep investigating.
  
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Reply #27 - Nov 3rd, 2011 at 8:24pm
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sjd, My 43 Spanish Peabody is marked the same as yours, the twist is the same as yours and the fired cartridge looks the same as yours. It's a 43 Spanish. The original bullet weight is about 375 grains.
  
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Re: Side Hammer Peabody
Reply #28 - Nov 5th, 2011 at 10:47pm
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Yeah, the 44-90 What Cheer has the same head dimensions as .43 Beaumont, which is huge by comparison to the 11.15X58R (.43 Span)
Case length isn't far off, 2.25 vs 2 3/16 if I remember correctly.
  
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